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Clearing point violation at Dunblane 10/06/2010 at 19:33 #1349
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A quick search hasn't brought up anything about this already being mentioned, so here it is:
If I've got a train standing at DB6, and then set a route from DB13 to DB14, I get the message about a clearing point violation.
Am I correct in thinking that this shouldn't happen, or have I overlooked something?

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Clearing point violation at Dunblane 10/06/2010 at 19:33 #9575
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A quick search hasn't brought up anything about this already being mentioned, so here it is:
If I've got a train standing at DB6, and then set a route from DB13 to DB14, I get the message about a clearing point violation.
Am I correct in thinking that this shouldn't happen, or have I overlooked something?

Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick.
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Clearing point violation at Dunblane 10/06/2010 at 20:06 #9576
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Why do you think you should not have a violation?

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Clearing point violation at Dunblane 10/06/2010 at 20:09 #9577
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I believe that this is normal and it should be expected to work just like that but I wouldn't worry too much as it's a common mistake I've noticed/heard about during multiplayer sessions of this simulation.

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Clearing point violation at Dunblane 10/06/2010 at 20:37 #9578
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Peter Bennet said:
Why do you think you should not have a violation?
Provided the first train really is standing at the home signal (DB6) it's perfectly legit to shunt another one over a crossover ahead of it.

GE/RT8000/TS3, Issue 3 said:
3.4.2 Maintaining the clearing point
After you have accepted a train from signal box A, you must not
allow the line to be obstructed within the clearing point for that
train, unless one of the following applies:
• The train has been stopped at the home signal...
Here's an example of a similar move at another location: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1t-cSJNedw.

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Clearing point violation at Dunblane 10/06/2010 at 20:42 #9579
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Adrian the Rock said:
Peter Bennet said:
Why do you think you should not have a violation?

Provided the first train really is standing at the home signal (DB6) it's perfectly legit to shunt another one over a crossover ahead of it.
Thanks for that, I suspected that may be the answer.

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Clearing point violation at Dunblane 11/06/2010 at 18:00 #9598
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Adrian the Rock said:
Provided the first train really is standing at the home signal (DB6) it's perfectly legit to shunt another one over a crossover ahead of it.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, however I wasn't absolutely sure about it. Thanks for the confirmation.

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Clearing point violation at Dunblane 11/06/2010 at 18:18 #9599
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Jan said:
Adrian the Rock said:
Provided the first train really is standing at the home signal (DB6) it's perfectly legit to shunt another one over a crossover ahead of it.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, however I wasn't absolutely sure about it. Thanks for the confirmation.
I was taught that the following covers all occasions when a clearing point may again be used by other trains:
Passed (Train has passed the signal and clearing point, hence doesn't require it)
At a stand (Train stopped at signal)
Cancelled (Self explanatory!)
Expired (Train has failed and is unable to proceed further)
Also known as "PACE".

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