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Via buttons 03/12/2011 at 23:02 #24406
djdeadman
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Hi.
I am unable to find the via buttons on the Euston sim. Can yo please tell me where they are. This looks an excellent sim but I am having trouble with these butons! Thanks to all for your hard work.
David.

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Re: Via buttons 03/12/2011 at 23:10 #24407
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Really ! on mine they are blue with a letter beside them.
You cant see these, I think outside platform 10 there is the "A" button (from memory)

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Re: Via buttons 03/12/2011 at 23:14 #24408
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a fair point (from a beginners point of view) is that there is no definition of via buttons or their use shown in the manual, the knowledge of their appearance and purpose is assumed
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Re: Via buttons 03/12/2011 at 23:31 #24409
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I suppose, it says to go from here to here you need buttons a/b/x etc.....
But you then have to realise what the buttons actually are.

In previous games got used to a blue arrow, but on this its a round blue button.

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Re: Via buttons 04/12/2011 at 07:33 #24414
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One (or a few) of the signals are actually via buttons, am I right? It took me quite a long time to figure it out. It's the 5th or 6th signal from the rightmost.
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Re: Via buttons 04/12/2011 at 08:48 #24415
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Via buttons (glossary) and display
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Re: Via buttons 04/12/2011 at 13:07 #24425
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Added extra image of blue roundel to Wiki Signalling Display page, also added "Via Button" to description line. HTH.
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Re: Via buttons 04/12/2011 at 14:40 #24429
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" said:
a fair point (from a beginners point of view) is that there is no definition of via buttons or their use shown in the manual, the knowledge of their appearance and purpose is assumed
Via buttons aren't new to Euston, so I didn't consider that they needed a lot of discussion. I did write:

"You will notice 13 blue buttons in this area, labelled A to N. These are "via" buttons"
and
"click on the entrance signal, then the via buttons, then the exit signal"
What's insufficient about that?

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Re: Via buttons 04/12/2011 at 14:41 #24430
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" said:
In previous games got used to a blue arrow, but on this its a round blue button.
Arrows are suitable when the via button can only be used in one direction. These are bidirectional.

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Re: Via buttons 04/12/2011 at 14:41 #24431
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" said:
One (or a few) of the signals are actually via buttons, am I right?
No.

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Re: Via buttons 04/12/2011 at 15:27 #24434
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As has been said before, Via buttons are not a new concept in Simsig but where not too common. They only exist in complicated places and if you see them on SimSig then chances are that's because they exist in real life.
New street also has via buttons which are needed to set routes. You need to think carefully about which way to send trains to their destation to avoid delaying subsequent trains. The same applies with Euston.

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Re: Via buttons 04/12/2011 at 20:36 #24450
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" said:
" said:
One (or a few) of the signals are actually via buttons, am I right?
No.
The signals require an overlap to be selected before the entry signal can clear, so while they may act a little bit like via buttons when a route is set to them, they are proper signals, and the exit arrows associated with them are for selecting which way the overlap goes: they do not set a route to another signal in the way they do everywhere else.

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Re: Via buttons 05/12/2011 at 13:38 #24477
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I have to say that after being so used to King's Cross not having to do the Via work, this causes some amount of exertion !
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Re: Via buttons 05/12/2011 at 14:34 #24478
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I have to say that after being so used to King's Cross not having to do the Via work, this causes some amount of exertion !
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Re: Via buttons 05/12/2011 at 20:53 #24502
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If memory serves me correcty there were 3 via buttons on Kings Cross, that were blue button type like Euston.
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Re: Via buttons 05/12/2011 at 21:03 #24505
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If memory serves me correcty there were 3 via buttons on Kings Cross, that were blue button type like Euston.
You are quite correct. A for going into and out of platform 1.

B for around platform 5.

And C for platform 8 and 9.

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Re: Via buttons 06/12/2011 at 00:37 #24528
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" said:
You are quite correct. A for going into and out of platform 1.

'fraid I don't think that is completely correct.

Via button A is for trains on Fast Line 2 (Line A) going into Platform 1. Normally, you set the route from Signal 296 (K296) into Platform 1 and it'll set it via the long route, but if you set the route via Via button A then it'll go via the short route which crosses the line out of Platforms 2 and 3.

I cannot see the use of it (Via button A) for trains leaving Platform 1.

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Re: Via buttons 06/12/2011 at 02:01 #24536
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I thought there was sufficient room for an engine to stand at sig. 287 but unfortunately there is no overlap. Strange!

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Re: Via buttons 06/12/2011 at 09:20 #24547
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" said:
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You are quite correct. A for going into and out of platform 1.

'fraid I don't think that is completely correct.

Via button A is for trains on Fast Line 2 (Line A) going into Platform 1. Normally, you set the route from Signal 296 (K296) into Platform 1 and it'll set it via the long route, but if you set the route via Via button A then it'll go via the short route which crosses the line out of Platforms 2 and 3.

I cannot see the use of it (Via button A) for trains leaving Platform 1.
For leaving via the short route

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Re: Via buttons 06/12/2011 at 10:10 #24551
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The 'short route' in the Down direction from P1 is automatically selected if the route is set from 285 to 295 (an attempt to use the 'via' button will fail) as the other route requires a route set to 287 and then on from there. You only need to use the 'via' button in the up direction.

But I think we all understood what the post meant.

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Re: Via buttons 26/12/2011 at 19:41 #26203
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Thanks Agilchrist for a rather abrupt reply. I used to drive trains, not signal them! I would not reply like that to questions concerning my profession, if a member wanted any information no matter how obvious it would seem!
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