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problems 11/12/2011 at 16:13 #24883
bradleigh10
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The first LO to approach Euston is 5M31 on the 1990 version. I am having troubles getting it into Platform 9 (I have also found its the same to all other platforms). I can't link Signal 64 to the next shunt signal and into platform 9. How do I do this?
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Re: problems 11/12/2011 at 16:27 #24885
guyh
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Hi, this is one where you will really benefit from reading the manual. There are many "via" buttons (the blue roundels with letters near them) that need to be pressed between the "entrance" and "exit" signals if they lie on the required route. In this case, you need to click 64, then K, then the "exit" triangle at the buffer stops of plat 9.

There is no route from 64 to the intermediate shunt signals - they are only there for trains that have come FROM the platforms and are then reversing to go back in.

Also critical is that a number of routes which you'd expect to be possible (ie there is track with points that can be set the correct way) are not coded into the interlocking. The tables in the manual are very helpful for learning what you can and can't do.

Last edited: 11/12/2011 at 16:28 by guyh
Reason: typo "a" replaced with "are"

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Re: problems 03/01/2012 at 22:55 #26761
Charlytos
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guyh, tran 5m31-1 arrives well until signal 64, after which era used the next detail:

* era 60, accepts well, from signal 64, point K to platform
*era 90, doesn't accept it, message over power line, I have provedto send it to fast line but receive same message over power line

For my reason is bug, because if is accepted on era 60, why is not accept for era 90? I don't understand that!...

Your Spanish friend, Carlos

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Re: problems 03/01/2012 at 23:30 #26762
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The lines into Euston have different power options depending on which era is selected. You need to make sure what type of power the train has (as shown in the second tab of the TT window for the train) and also what type of power is available on the track you have selected. If your train is a DC train rather than AC or Diesel you have a limited number of lines you can use to get into Euston and these lines differ between one era and another.
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Re: problems 03/01/2012 at 23:46 #26763
Charlytos
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Postal, for era 90 train 5m31-1 uses Overhead and 3rd rail power loco. But ignore which of both power lines is possible isn't showed its name.

Your Spanish friend, Carlos

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Re: problems 04/01/2012 at 01:34 #26767
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" said:
Postal, for era 90 train 5m31-1 uses Overhead and 3rd rail power loco. But ignore which of both power lines is possible isn't showed its name.

Your Spanish friend, Carlos
Carlos, The Initial Power in Train Characteristics is the one in use. 5M31-1 is 3rd rail.

Barry

Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Re: problems 04/01/2012 at 10:56 #26785
Charlytos
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Thanks Barry M. to clarify it, I understand your details. But the question is, which is the 3rd rail line, because only I see AC and DC on map tracks. I don't see any 3rd rail or overhead name by any place.
And train runs well until signal 115, then 2 possible directions to signal 109 Up slow and to signal 111 Up fast. Probed send train to both lines, receiving message mistake power line used. Then on which direction send the train, sincerely I ignore it. Other possible directions there aren't it...
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Downloaded timetable Euston 1990, 1990 era, train 5m29, equal origin, destination and power loco used 3rd line that the previous mentioned train 5m31-1 from 2003 timetable.
Well from signal 115 creation route by slow line until platform 9, not receiving mistake power line message. I don't understand how now if is accepted but the train 5M31-1 using same line timetable control default of sim, era 90 doesn't accept it that route. If with timetable Euston 1990 is accepted and with timetable 2003 isn't accepted of 2003 timetable for my personal reason...

Your Spanish friend, Carlos

Last edited: 04/01/2012 at 11:32 by Charlytos
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Re: problems 04/01/2012 at 11:01 #26787
postal
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Carlos

For the areas modelled by SimSig, DC and 3rd. rail mean the same thing, and AC and Overhead are the same. So a DC or 3rd. rail train can't run on a line that is only AC or Overhead and an AC or Overhead train can't run on a DC or 3rd. Rail only line. If I recall correctly, the only two sims where you have to watch for that are North London (NLL) and Euston. To make things even more complicated, Euston has some lines which have different power sources from era to era which is where your problem started in the first place.

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Re: problems 04/01/2012 at 12:14 #26793
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Thanks Postal to clarify that detail over dc, ac, 3rd rail and overhead. The question is, why from timetable 2003 train 5m31-1 doesn't accept the DC line if is 3rd line and using timetable Euston 1990, train 5m29 if is accepted. When trains 5m31 and 5m29 have same entrance and destination point, using both trains 3rd line.
I send both trains to DC Up slow line until signal 64, then K, and destination platform being created the route correctly. Pardon repeat it, with 5m31 is not accepted line and with 5m29 if is accepted. I don't understand that!...

Your Spanish friend, Carlos

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Re: problems 04/01/2012 at 15:50 #26799
clive
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There's no obvious difference between these trains. Can you please email me a saved game done immediately after you get the phone call from 5M31-1 at signal 64.
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Re: problems 04/01/2012 at 23:23 #26825
Charlytos
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Could be the problem personal mistake. Because, started new session: tt summer 2003, 1990 era, train 5M31-1 passed well from signal 64 to Euston platform 9. Ignore, why yesterday I had that problem!...

Your Spanish friend, Carlos

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Re: problems 04/01/2012 at 23:32 #26827
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Just tried this, 1990s Euston accepts 5m31 happily, sequence Sig 64, via, Platform 9, all intervening signals clear and away she goes. No problems.
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Re: problems 05/01/2012 at 21:51 #26852
Charlytos
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slattery c, was personal mistake creating the route to platform 9!...

Your Spanish friend, Carlos

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