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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 13/10/2012 at 06:03 #36412
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Re 5F01S; I thought it was not permissible for a train to back out of Camden Carriage Sidings?

Keep up the good work.
John,

All I wanted was a "yes" or a "no". Mickey fell asleep.lol!

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 15/10/2012 at 13:08 #36500
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I've got another rule to be added:

5H05 must appear 5 mins after 0H05 leaves the area.

Currently got 0H05 sitting in the DCS shunt neck while 5H05 is at Park St Tunnels.

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 15/10/2012 at 13:57 #36501
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I've got another rule to be added:

5H05 must appear 5 mins after 0H05 leaves the area.

Currently got 0H05 sitting in the DCS shunt neck while 5H05 is at Park St Tunnels.
thanks, added for the next release.

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 15/10/2012 at 17:12 #36534
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Minor issue here - I think I'm playing Wednesday. I have 5A29 sat in one of the DCS shunt necks at 1052, but it isn't due to leave until 1655. Perhaps this is intentional? It shows as over 10 hours late. The only thing I can think of is that the seed train, 5A40-1 has no entry time, only a rule which says it must appear 40 minutes after 5A40 leaves the area (due to enter Camden CS at 0853).
There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway.
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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 15/10/2012 at 17:30 #36540
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Minor issue here - I think I'm playing Wednesday. I have 5A29 sat in one of the DCS shunt necks at 1052, but it isn't due to leave until 1655. Perhaps this is intentional? It shows as over 10 hours late. The only thing I can think of is that the seed train, 5A40-1 has no entry time, only a rule which says it must appear 40 minutes after 5A40 leaves the area (due to enter Camden CS at 0853).
5A40-1 isnt a seed as such, it is ECS from euston, which has been cleaned and watered in the shed. it does intentionally sit in the neck for most of the day. i had entered it without an entry time on the basis it would leave the shed after it had been cleaned, not nessesarily to a specific timetabled time. that is (i suspect) as you say the cause of the problem.

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 15/10/2012 at 19:34 #36547
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Ah, fair enough. I was just a bit surprised to see something blocking one of the shunt necks considering how busy they had been a little earlier in the sim!

Absolutely loving the TT; its great fun (until you get a TC failure slicing the station in half!)

There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway.
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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 15/10/2012 at 20:24 #36549
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Ah, fair enough. I was just a bit surprised to see something blocking one of the shunt necks considering how busy they had been a little earlier in the sim!

Absolutely loving the TT; its great fun (until you get a TC failure slicing the station in half!)
In which case you can use the set as a hot spare to fill a gap and then put an equivalent back into the neck later.

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 15/10/2012 at 22:12 #36551
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Hello Joe,

Re 5F01S; I thought it was not permissible for a train to back out of Camden Carriage Sidings?

Keep up the good work

Regards
Barry
I have a definitive yes/no answer now, which is that yes, propelling from camden was authorised.
Keith Barber (Kbarber on here) has cleared this up with reference to the sectional appendix.

later in the timetable a pair of anglo scottish sets berth in camden for cleaning and servicing, before later propelling out aswell.

Joe

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 26/05/2014 at 15:26 #60958
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I have submitted an updated Version of this timetable (awaiting approval) which deals with some minor errors and updates the way light locos are timetabled. this has been labelled V3.0.0 should you wish to update your existing copy
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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 26/05/2014 at 15:30 #60959
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Ah, lovely. This is one of my favourite Simsig TTs, especially when I close some lines.
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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 26/05/2014 at 17:47 #60964
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What exactly are the changes with regard to the light locos? I can't recall ever coming across a problem with any particular loco.
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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 27/05/2014 at 07:09 #60975
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What exactly are the changes with regard to the light locos? I can't recall ever coming across a problem with any particular loco.
there was no true problem, but light locos went out of the station on one headcode which then changed at the backing out roads, station throat, or park st tunnels. this has been revised to a single headcode. this meant a) if you wanted to hold him there and he called in theres no option to tell him to wait time, which is a core code bug for newly formed services, whereas now you can tell him to wait time. and b) it makes it an awful lot harder to see what a light loco is doing before you released it from the station.

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 27/05/2014 at 15:09 #60991
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What exactly are the changes with regard to the light locos? I can't recall ever coming across a problem with any particular loco.
there was no true problem, but light locos went out of the station on one headcode which then changed at the backing out roads, station throat, or park st tunnels. this has been revised to a single headcode. this meant a) if you wanted to hold him there and he called in theres no option to tell him to wait time, which is a core code bug for newly formed services, whereas now you can tell him to wait time. and b) it makes it an awful lot harder to see what a light loco is doing before you released it from the station.

Ah yes, I do find it slightly annoying to have to change the headcode when the loco gets to PST, I admit. The light loco moves are what makes this TT challenging.

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 08/06/2014 at 09:27 #61441
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Out of interest, I assume we're still waiting for this to be approved?
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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 08/06/2014 at 10:06 #61445
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Out of interest, I assume we're still waiting for this to be approved?
it was submitted about 2 weeks ago. I followed the correct naming convention as per the uploads page. I have no PM to tell me it has been declined so I would imagine it is still awaiting approval. I will upload it again just in case something went wrong.

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 18/06/2014 at 16:24 #61826
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Out of interest, I assume we're still waiting for this to be approved?
it was submitted about 2 weeks ago. I followed the correct naming convention as per the uploads page. I have no PM to tell me it has been declined so I would imagine it is still awaiting approval. I will upload it again just in case something went wrong.
now approved!

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 25/06/2014 at 15:34 #62025
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Joe,

Very good effort on this timetable, thanks for that, i found some (issues?) while playing the MX day:

Sim time: [01:10]

1. I have 4R24MX standing at P12, (0R24 already DEF) and 4R24MX is waiting to join with 0T08-10MX. (Depart 02:25). I check the rules for that engine (0T08-10MX) and i got this:

0T08-10MX must appears 4 minutes after 3A64MX leaves the area.
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3A64MX enters at 01:11, stop at P13 01:19 and DEF "0A64-1" then waits for join with 0T08-12MX. (Depart 02:00).
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0T08-12MX must appears 1 minute after 0T08-1 leaves the area.
Note: 0T08-1 already leave the area (00:32) to Parcels (Joined with 5F01S at P14)

Conclusion:

My madness will start because 0T08-12MX is not entering in correct time (00:33 in my case).

This rule is not working:
"0T08-12MX must appears 1 minute after 0T08-1 leaves the area."

Note: All the delays and failures are "OFF".

I'm just reporting because i don't know if anyone has experienced the same situation.

Important: I hope I have expressed myself better than other times, I hope that users have understood what I have to explain, English is not my first language, but I'm trying to improve as time goes by.

Save game: [01:10]
[attachment=2525]0110-1980V300-MX.ssg[/attachment]

Regards,
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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 25/06/2014 at 16:56 #62027
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Joe,

Very good effort on this timetable, thanks for that, i found some (issues?) while playing the MX day:

Sim time: [01:10]

1. I have 4R24MX standing at P12, (0R24 already DEF) and 4R24MX is waiting to join with 0T08-10MX. (Depart 02:25). I check the rules for that engine (0T08-10MX) and i got this:

0T08-10MX must appears 4 minutes after 3A64MX leaves the area.
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3A64MX enters at 01:11, stop at P13 01:19 and DEF "0A64-1" then waits for join with 0T08-12MX. (Depart 02:00).
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0T08-12MX must appears 1 minute after 0T08-1 leaves the area.
Note: 0T08-1 already leave the area (00:32) to Parcels (Joined with 5F01S at P14)

Conclusion:

My madness will start because 0T08-12MX is not entering in correct time (00:33 in my case).

This rule is not working:
"0T08-12MX must appears 1 minute after 0T08-1 leaves the area."

Note: All the delays and failures are "OFF".

I'm just reporting because i don't know if anyone has experienced the same situation.

Important: I hope I have expressed myself better than other times, I hope that users have understood what I have to explain, English is not my first language, but I'm trying to improve as time goes by.

Save game: [01:10]
[attachment=2525]0110-1980V300-MX.ssg[/attachment]

Regards,
Thiago.
0T08-12MX enters at 01:40 at my game, just after 3A66MX finish to DEF "0A66-3" at P2.

[attachment=2526]0140-1980V300-MX.ssg[/attachment]

It enters 01:07 after the correct time (00:33 my case).

Thiago.

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 09/10/2014 at 14:52 #64950
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Just wanted to offer a congratulations on an incredibly fun and dynamic timetable.

I'm doing moves here I didn't even know were possible, having only played the default TT before this. Keeping me on my toes!

Thanks for making this.

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 21/12/2014 at 16:31 #66909
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Question - how many individual Class 501 units are used for the Watford Junction services in this TT? To put it another way - how many 501s are there (should there) be between Euston and Watford Junction at any one time? My instinct tells me it's either two or three.
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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 19/09/2015 at 14:54 #76060
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Hi,

Regarding the TT randomly selecting a day of the week, is it possible to somehow force it to select a Friday? There appear to be several more trains on that day.

Just wondering if there's a way to do it without just restarting the sim until I get the right day.

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 19/09/2015 at 15:19 #76061
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Delete (or set to 0% chance of entering) the other four of 5Z21 MON/TUE/WED/THU/FRI, and set the one you do want to run to 100% chance of entering.

In general, this "trick" works with any random day of the week timetable, and you simply need to find the relevant train used to choose the day.

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 19/09/2015 at 17:07 #76062
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Delete (or set to 0% chance of entering) the other four of 5Z21 MON/TUE/WED/THU/FRI, and set the one you do want to run to 100% chance of entering.

In general, this "trick" works with any random day of the week timetable, and you simply need to find the relevant train used to choose the day.
And don't forget to take out the "are atlernatives" rule or you will have 4 runs in 5 where no "Day of the Week" seed enters.

If you want to create a suite of 5 TTs (one for each day of the week) take out the "are alternatives" rule, give the MON seed a 100% chance, the others 0% then save as MON TT. Following that, revert the MON seed to 0%, make the TUE seed 100%, save as TUE TT etc. etc.

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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 20/09/2015 at 01:00 #76067
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Thankyou both!
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1980/81 Weekdays timetable 25/10/2017 at 17:03 #102517
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jc92 in post 60975 said:
" said:
What exactly are the changes with regard to the light locos? I can't recall ever coming across a problem with any particular loco.
there was no true problem, but light locos went out of the station on one headcode which then changed at the backing out roads, station throat, or park st tunnels. this has been revised to a single headcode. this meant a) if you wanted to hold him there and he called in theres no option to tell him to wait time, which is a core code bug for newly formed services, whereas now you can tell him to wait time. and b) it makes it an awful lot harder to see what a light loco is doing before you released it from the station.
Maybe I'm missing something but playing this right now it seems there are still a lot of light locos leaving the station and becoming new headcodes halfway through the shunt. Timetable says its "Euston 1980 draft V3.0.0"

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