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| Join and Form in the Wiki 08/12/2009 at 08:16 #360 | |
caedave
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I was going to fill in the two missing rule links but have a problem. Reading the Wiki covering the two rules of Join and Form that are currently compleated I was unable to see any difference. My understanding is the Join is used where the trigger event is the actual joining of two trains (Train A to Train B). Is the trigger as the "Join" starts or when the "Join" is completed? (1A01 J:1A02 N:1A03) "Formed" is when a "New Train" appears (1A01: N:1A02). From the above, both Rules finish with a "New Train" so "What is the actual difference" If someone can give me the difference then I will create the two missing entries. Dave M. Log in to reply |
| Join and Form in the Wiki 08/12/2009 at 08:16 #4901 | |
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caedave
142 posts |
I was going to fill in the two missing rule links but have a problem. Reading the Wiki covering the two rules of Join and Form that are currently compleated I was unable to see any difference. My understanding is the Join is used where the trigger event is the actual joining of two trains (Train A to Train B). Is the trigger as the "Join" starts or when the "Join" is completed? (1A01 J:1A02 N:1A03) "Formed" is when a "New Train" appears (1A01: N:1A02). From the above, both Rules finish with a "New Train" so "What is the actual difference" If someone can give me the difference then I will create the two missing entries. Dave M. Log in to reply |
| Join and Form in the Wiki 08/12/2009 at 09:17 #4904 | |
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AndyG
1834 posts |
"When formed" could cover a new train being formed by ANY of New, Divide/detach or Join, rather than a specific Join. Trying to think of an example. The trigger is "finished joining", least that what it says on the tin. Edit: Have put draft pages into WIKI, please edit as required. I can only help one person a day. Today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. Log in to reply |
| Join and Form in the Wiki 08/12/2009 at 09:29 #4906 | |
Peter Bennet
5360 posts |
This is a guess as I can't test at the moment. You can join without forming a new train. As in 1A00 arrives and joins to 2A00 then continues as 1A00 at twice the length. So perhaps you can have a 1A00 can't depart till 4 mins after 1A00 has finished joining- at a guess you could also have 'after 2A00 finished joining' as the alternative- I think a test would need to be done to confirm all this. Hope that helps. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Join and Form in the Wiki 08/12/2009 at 10:37 #4907 | |
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caedave
142 posts |
Ta both, that got the brain cells working. "Join" equals 1A01 joins 1B02, end, not interested in what they become or do, if anything. Example T:xxxx 1A01 J:1B02. Trigger's T:xxxx activity. "Forms" equals 1A01 becomes 1B02 Example T:xxxx 1A01 N:1B02. Trigger's T:xxxx activity. Will now go away and think about the wording for them both. Dave M. Log in to reply |
| Join and Form in the Wiki 08/12/2009 at 10:44 #4908 | |
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AndyG
1834 posts |
Peter's hit the nail. That example does happen in existing TTs, and will work, to give an appropriate dwell time. I can only help one person a day. Today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. Log in to reply |
| Join and Form in the Wiki 08/12/2009 at 11:00 #4909 | |
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caedave
142 posts |
Yes. There is however some slight confusion in the AppAfter Rules. Some of them state Train "T" may or may not be involved in the trigger. This reference needs to be removed, train "T" CAN NOT be involved with the trigger as it does not appear in the Sim until after the trigger event. Dave M. Log in to reply |
| Join and Form in the Wiki 08/12/2009 at 11:16 #4912 | |
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caedave
142 posts |
Someone beat me to it Dave M. Log in to reply |
| Join and Form in the Wiki 08/12/2009 at 12:18 #4915 | |
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AndyG
1834 posts |
:cool: ^o
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| Join and Form in the Wiki 08/12/2009 at 12:54 #4916 | |
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caedave
142 posts |
Ba Humbug. Time to get back to my WTT Log in to reply |