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Assorted observations 10/11/2013 at 12:15 #51245
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What I've come across so far:
- In the Incident Report, Oxford Circus is referred to as "Oxford Street" (e.g. Train V215 door problems at Oxford Street Platform 5).
- The track circuit display between Oxford Circus and Warren Street NB seems a bit messed up.
- The section between Stockwell and Brixton SB seems a bit of a pinch point. According to the signalling diagrams I've found (#1 and #2), A378 should be able to display a white aspect, presumably when the line is clear to the associated headway post, however I've never observed it doing that within the sim. Currently, it only clears directly to green once the preceding train has reached the crossovers at Brixton.
- After a train started reporting technical problem at each successive station, I decided to take it out of service by abandoning its timetable, and then returning it to the depot. However, even though it ran non-stop, it continued generating messages along the lines of "Train V214 Technical difficulties Green Park Platform 4" at each station it passed through, followed after a short while by the corresponding message that the failure had been cleared.

- Fiendish idea: As the scenarios currently only go up to "Severe Delays", what about adding a "Part Suspended" mode, where you would have longer-lasting incidents as well, ranging maybe from five to ten minutes to half an hour or longer, like a train breaking down completely, or some other incident at a station. Obviously, the frequency of such incidents would need to be balanced so on average they wouldn't occur too often, either.

Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick.
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Assorted observations 10/11/2013 at 12:27 #51247
Peter Bennet
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" said:
What I've come across so far:
- In the Incident Report, Oxford Circus is referred to as "Oxford Street" (e.g. Train V215 door problems at Oxford Street Platform 5).

Thanks, typo on my part


" said:

- The track circuit display between Oxford Circus and Warren Street NB seems a bit messed up.

I'll have a look - which layout?


" said:

- The section between Stockwell and Brixton SB seems a bit of a pinch point. According to the signalling diagrams I've found (#1 and #2), A378 should be able to display a white aspect, presumably when the line is clear to the associated headway post, however I've never observed it doing that within the sim. Currently, it only clears directly to green once the preceding train has reached the crossovers at Brixton.

I did have some problems that end working out how the O/laps and Headway markers interacted, the data I had on that part were a bit vague, to the point I could not see what purpose the W actually served- will revisit.

" said:

- After a train started reporting technical problem at each successive station, I decided to take it out of service by abandoning its timetable, and then returning it to the depot. However, even though it ran non-stop, it continued generating messages along the lines of "Train V214 Technical difficulties Green Park Platform 4" at each station it passed through, followed after a short while by the corresponding message that the failure had been cleared.

It's quite complex to write data to cover every possibility and I'm not sure I can easily resolve that, I was wondering how easy it would be to disable the "problem" while it was shunted into a siding and thus allow a replacement train to be inserted.

" said:

- Fiendish idea: As the scenarios currently only go up to "Severe Delays", what about adding a "Part Suspended" mode, where you would have longer-lasting incidents as well, ranging maybe from five to ten minutes to half an hour or longer, like a train breaking down completely, or some other incident at a station. Obviously, the frequency of such incidents would need to be balanced so on average they wouldn't occur too often, either.
It's feasible to write a 4th delay possibility with longer delay times. The Saturday engineering timetable runs as split service, not quite what you were asking I know.

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Peter

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Assorted observations 10/11/2013 at 13:16 #51252
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" said:
" said:

- The track circuit display between Oxford Circus and Warren Street NB seems a bit messed up.

I'll have a look - which layout?

Default options, i.e. no geographical display and the paged layout.


" said:
It's quite complex to write data to cover every possibility and I'm not sure I can easily resolve that, I was wondering how easy it would be to disable the "problem" while it was shunted into a siding and thus allow a replacement train to be inserted.
Yes, I can understand that. I wanted to mention it just in case, but apart from cluttering the incident log a bit it's not really a problem.


" said:
" said:

- Fiendish idea: As the scenarios currently only go up to "Severe Delays", what about adding a "Part Suspended" mode, where you would have longer-lasting incidents as well, ranging maybe from five to ten minutes to half an hour or longer, like a train breaking down completely, or some other incident at a station. Obviously, the frequency of such incidents would need to be balanced so on average they wouldn't occur too often, either.
It's feasible to write a 4th delay possibility with longer delay times. The Saturday engineering timetable runs as split service, not quite what you were asking I know.
Yes, but on that timetable, the split service is pre-planned.
What I wanted to get at is, with the current settings, the delays (passenger alarms and door problems) are mostly short-term, so they generally delay the service a bit, but usually this only means that you might have to take a bit of extra care in what order you run the trains at the terminal stations. Other than that, they don't really affect the running of the simulation.
The technical defects in the "Severe Delays" scenario add a bit more involvement, because now you have to manage taking a train out of service and replacing it by a spare train from the depot, so therefore my idea of a further "Part Suspended" scenario, where occasional longer term delays mean you have to suspend/split/reform the service ad hoc to keep it going.

Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick.
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Assorted observations 10/11/2013 at 13:57 #51258
Peter Bennet
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" said:
" said:
" said:

- The track circuit display between Oxford Circus and Warren Street NB seems a bit messed up.

I'll have a look - which layout?

Default options, i.e. no geographical display and the paged layout.


" said:
It's quite complex to write data to cover every possibility and I'm not sure I can easily resolve that, I was wondering how easy it would be to disable the "problem" while it was shunted into a siding and thus allow a replacement train to be inserted.
Yes, I can understand that. I wanted to mention it just in case, but apart from cluttering the incident log a bit it's not really a problem.


" said:
" said:

- Fiendish idea: As the scenarios currently only go up to "Severe Delays", what about adding a "Part Suspended" mode, where you would have longer-lasting incidents as well, ranging maybe from five to ten minutes to half an hour or longer, like a train breaking down completely, or some other incident at a station. Obviously, the frequency of such incidents would need to be balanced so on average they wouldn't occur too often, either.
It's feasible to write a 4th delay possibility with longer delay times. The Saturday engineering timetable runs as split service, not quite what you were asking I know.
Yes, but on that timetable, the split service is pre-planned.
What I wanted to get at is, with the current settings, the delays (passenger alarms and door problems) are mostly short-term, so they generally delay the service a bit, but usually this only means that you might have to take a bit of extra care in what order you run the trains at the terminal stations. Other than that, they don't really affect the running of the simulation.
The technical defects in the "Severe Delays" scenario add a bit more involvement, because now you have to manage taking a train out of service and replacing it by a spare train from the depot, so therefore my idea of a further "Part Suspended" scenario, where occasional longer term delays mean you have to suspend/split/reform the service ad hoc to keep it going.
You could ramp up the Signal/point/TC failures for the time being.
Peter

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Assorted observations 11/11/2013 at 17:50 #51355
Peter Bennet
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" said:
It's quite complex to write data to cover every possibility and I'm not sure I can easily resolve that, I was wondering how easy it would be to disable the "problem" while it was shunted into a siding and thus allow a replacement train to be inserted.
Yes, I can understand that. I wanted to mention it just in case, but apart from cluttering the incident log a bit it's not really a problem.

Thinking about it if you edit the timetable and add a freight train "tick" that should override the bespoke delay code.

Peter

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