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Some trains for platform 8 not entering 15-10-09(0445) 04/06/2014 at 21:06 #61312
Hugh Jampton
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I've thoroughly enjoyed playing through both of the excellent Victoria sims - well done to all concerned. On Victoria Central, in the morning/early afternoon, there is a series of trains which are passed across to the Southeastern side to use platform 8. However, it has just dawned on me that when I played the Southeastern sim those trains didn't enter from Central. They are 2E27-C, 2R41-C, 2F13-C, 2E35-C, 2R49-C, 2F17-C, 2E43-C and 2E51-C. I have ARS on for that area. I'm using version 4.0.31 of the loader and the 15-10-09(0445) timetable that was supplied with the sim. What have I done wrong? I've attached a save in case that helps.
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Some trains for platform 8 not entering 15-10-09(0445) 05/06/2014 at 00:17 #61315
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I've thoroughly enjoyed playing through both of the excellent Victoria sims - well done to all concerned. On Victoria Central, in the morning/early afternoon, there is a series of trains which are passed across to the Southeastern side to use platform 8. However, it has just dawned on me that when I played the Southeastern sim those trains didn't enter from Central. They are 2E27-C, 2R41-C, 2F13-C, 2E35-C, 2R49-C, 2F17-C, 2E43-C and 2E51-C. I have ARS on for that area. I'm using version 4.0.31 of the loader and the 15-10-09(0445) timetable that was supplied with the sim. What have I done wrong? I've attached a save in case that helps.
Good question! I did a test with 2E27-C and it entered the sim ok. Did you by chance have Central open at the time? If so, that may have a bearing on the problem.

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Some trains for platform 8 not entering 15-10-09(0445) 05/06/2014 at 05:34 #61316
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Are any or all subject to a rule that has not been satisfied?

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Some trains for platform 8 not entering 15-10-09(0445) 05/06/2014 at 07:30 #61318
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Nothing in the rules that I can see.

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Some trains for platform 8 not entering 15-10-09(0445) 05/06/2014 at 07:37 #61319
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I've checked the rules and can't see anything. However, I have just opened the sim as a new game, rather than from a save and, this time, the trains appear as they should. It can take me weeks to play 24 hours worth of a sim, usually in hour-long chunks. I have a feeling that the loader may have been updated in that time. Might that have anything to do with it?
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Some trains for platform 8 not entering 15-10-09(0445) 05/06/2014 at 08:06 #61321
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Nothing in the rules that I can see.

Barry
That's odd because the one I looked at had a rule that it would not enter till sometime after another train had left. So that seemed to be a rule that had the potential to be not have been stisfied if the referencing train had not previously left - which thus requires some tracing back through the timetable hence my suggestion.

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Some trains for platform 8 not entering 15-10-09(0445) 05/06/2014 at 08:13 #61323
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Nothing in the rules that I can see.

Barry
That's odd because the one I looked at had a rule that it would not enter till sometime after another train had left. So that seemed to be a rule that had the potential to be not have been stisfied if the referencing train had not previously left - which thus requires some tracing back through the timetable hence my suggestion.

peter
I've not looked myself but are we sure we are talking about the same simulation? It seems the issue is on Victoria SE, so it makes no sense for a rule to be applied for trains from P8 heading to Vic Central, as in must cases those trains would not return to SE that day??

Sorry guys, I am in the business of making people wait!
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Some trains for platform 8 not entering 15-10-09(0445) 05/06/2014 at 10:16 #61330
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Nothing in the rules that I can see.

Barry
That's odd because the one I looked at had a rule that it would not enter till sometime after another train had left. So that seemed to be a rule that had the potential to be not have been stisfied if the referencing train had not previously left - which thus requires some tracing back through the timetable hence my suggestion.

peter
Peter, the rule you mentioned is in Central's timetable, not the South Eastern.

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Some trains for platform 8 not entering 15-10-09(0445) 06/06/2014 at 13:06 #61382
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It might be a remnant of this problem in the initial release.
Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick.
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Some trains for platform 8 not entering 15-10-09(0445) 06/06/2014 at 21:04 #61407
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It might be a remnant of this problem in the initial release.
By which I guess you mean there may be a link between my missing trains and the problem with 3S92. That might make sense. 3S92-1 wouldn't budge from Battersea Park on its own (at about 10.50 a.m.) so I keyed the points and ordered it to pass VC561 at danger, which it duly did. (I keyed the points back again afterwards but couldn't delete the headcode from the berth, however that righted itself when the next Up 2Nxx South London line service passed.) I have tried to repeat this today and 3S92 still gets stuck but, whatever I do to get 3S92 moving again, the trains for platform 8 now appear as they should. Thus I'll shut up now as there's no point in pursuing something I can't even replicate myself!

Thanks anyway for your help.

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