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Request for help or suggestions 12/12/2014 at 15:47 #66515
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To all who have kindly answered and offered suggestions I'd like to extend my thanks. I've been "off grid" for a couple of weeks due to end-of-year exams, paperwork, etc.

I feel somewhat overwhelmed by the amount of things I'd like to be able to do and the short time I'll have to actually do some.

I guess that after this forthcoming trip there'll have to be a second one to catch all those things I'll have to miss this time round. I'm now printing out (sorry about the ink and paper expended) the whole thread to begin to put together some sort of schedule of activities.

Once again I'd like to close thanking all those who have input ideas and suggestions and I'll certainly keep all in mind (kindly ) whilst wandering around the UK.

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Request for help or suggestions 12/12/2014 at 15:51 #66517
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" said:
To all who have kindly answered and offered suggestions I'd like to extend my thanks. I've been "off grid" for a couple of weeks due to end-of-year exams, paperwork, etc.

I feel somewhat overwhelmed by the amount of things I'd like to be able to do and the short time I'll have to actually do some.

I guess that after this forthcoming trip there'll have to be a second one to catch all those things I'll have to miss this time round. I'm now printing out (sorry about the ink and paper expended) the whole thread to begin to put together some sort of schedule of activities.

Once again I'd like to close thanking all those who have input ideas and suggestions and I'll certainly keep all in mind (kindly ) whilst wandering around the UK.
And if more things crop up now or nearer the time just ask us as there's bound to be someone here that can answer it.

Really hope you all enjoy your trip to the UK

Gareth

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Request for help or suggestions 31/12/2014 at 22:51 #67254
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Further question to Londoners,

I have located a nice looking flat for rent. The flat is located at Maritime Quay (on Thames Path) overlooking the Thames. It's a couple of blocks away from Masthouse Terrace Pier and within walking distance of the Island Gardens DLR station (around 1/2 mile) and about the same distance to Mudshute station.

From what I gather it's about a 20 minute ride to Bank and a good place to catch the tube to just about anywhere.

Any comments on the neighbourhood? Is it a safeish place to be around in the evenings? I mean no offence to anyone but I've no idea of how secure different parts of London are. The cost appears to be a reasonable amount (aprox. 1650 GBP per month). This means it's an option for using it as a base of operations (i.e. take off a couple of days somewhere and have "home" to come back to). I'll be contacting the Letting Agency to gather extra info (such as Admin fees, etc.)

As a reference I've found B&B for 2 at GBP 105 per night and a big room (up to 5) at GBP 160. As a very gross calculation, I get a months sleeping place (no breakfasts) for the equivalent of 10 nights at a B&B (albeit somewhat closer to downtown - Victoria Station). Most B&Bs found are upwards of GBP 80 per night.

Have a Happy New Year!

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Request for help or suggestions 31/12/2014 at 23:17 #67255
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Further question to Londoners,

I have located a nice looking flat for rent. The flat is located at Maritime Quay (on Thames Path) overlooking the Thames. It's a couple of blocks away from Masthouse Terrace Pier and within walking distance of the Island Gardens DLR station (around 1/2 mile) and about the same distance to Mudshute station.

From what I gather it's about a 20 minute ride to Bank and a good place to catch the tube to just about anywhere.

Any comments on the neighbourhood? Is it a safeish place to be around in the evenings? I mean no offence to anyone but I've no idea of how secure different parts of London are. The cost appears to be a reasonable amount (aprox. 1650 GBP per month). This means it's an option for using it as a base of operations (i.e. take off a couple of days somewhere and have "home" to come back to). I'll be contacting the Letting Agency to gather extra info (such as Admin fees, etc.)

As a reference I've found B&B for 2 at GBP 105 per night and a big room (up to 5) at GBP 160. As a very gross calculation, I get a months sleeping place (no breakfasts) for the equivalent of 10 nights at a B&B (albeit somewhat closer to downtown - Victoria Station). Most B&Bs found are upwards of GBP 80 per night.

Have a Happy New Year!
Only been there in the daytime (more around Canary Wharf - excellent Dockland's museum there), and an interesting place to explore. Most of it's been redeveloped as offices and expensive housing so I guess most of the riff-raff have moved out.

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Request for help or suggestions 31/12/2014 at 23:42 #67256
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" said:
The cost appears to be a reasonable amount (aprox. 1650 GBP per month). This means it's an option for using it as a base of operations (i.e. take off a couple of days somewhere and have "home" to come back to). I'll be contacting the Letting Agency to gather extra info (such as Admin fees, etc.)
Out of interest, is this the flat?

I suspect that the price is for the flat only- you'll have to pay for water, electric and other bills on top of that, which could add quite a bit to your costs. Also, make sure you find out the amount of furnishing- one of the photos shows the bed with no mattress, and there won't be things like cups, plates etc. You may also incur various admin charges with utility companies.

Property in London is hideously expensive (that price gave this Northerner a heart attack!), and the cost of food, entertainment and everything else is considerably higher than the rest of the UK. In other parts of the country, you can get rental properties for half or even a third of the price. Again, this would be for a 'proper' rental property, which you'd have to furnish yourself.

I'd recommend finding a place that's marketed as a holiday apartment/flat. They can be very cheap outside the summer holiday season, and there's very little chance of having to pay additional bills on top of the figure they quote. Generally speaking, they're fully furnished and will provide basics like cooking equipment.

Apologies if you know all this already!

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Request for help or suggestions 01/01/2015 at 10:17 #67264
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Living in East London I wouldn't have too many qualms about the Isle of Dogs. There can be random trouble just about anywhere but you'd be pretty unlucky to encounter it. Certainly I'd feel more comfortable, as a visitor, there than I would in an area like Canning Town - but most of London is transient tenants on 6-month contracts these days so it's unlikely you would be noticed as a visitor wherever you were.

But Steamer has some very important points, this is a residential letting and might not, in the end, work out very well for you as a tourist.

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Request for help or suggestions 03/01/2015 at 16:22 #67327
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On top of the Britrail site, this pass could be of interest: http://www.interrail.eu/interrail-passes/global-pass

It might work out cheaper than the Britrail one, although I'm not sure what the T&C's are like for use in the UK..

Lucas

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Request for help or suggestions 03/01/2015 at 17:14 #67328
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" said:
Further question to Londoners,

I have located a nice looking flat for rent. The flat is located at Maritime Quay (on Thames Path) overlooking the Thames. It's a couple of blocks away from Masthouse Terrace Pier and within walking distance of the Island Gardens DLR station (around 1/2 mile) and about the same distance to Mudshute station.

From what I gather it's about a 20 minute ride to Bank and a good place to catch the tube to just about anywhere.

Any comments on the neighbourhood? Is it a safeish place to be around in the evenings? I mean no offence to anyone but I've no idea of how secure different parts of London are. The cost appears to be a reasonable amount (aprox. 1650 GBP per month). This means it's an option for using it as a base of operations (i.e. take off a couple of days somewhere and have "home" to come back to). I'll be contacting the Letting Agency to gather extra info (such as Admin fees, etc.)

As a reference I've found B&B for 2 at GBP 105 per night and a big room (up to 5) at GBP 160. As a very gross calculation, I get a months sleeping place (no breakfasts) for the equivalent of 10 nights at a B&B (albeit somewhat closer to downtown - Victoria Station). Most B&Bs found are upwards of GBP 80 per night.

Have a Happy New Year!
Even though this is priced as a monthly rental I would be very surprised if you can rent for less than 6 months, as that's how nearly all short term tenancies are done here.

If you do want to rent a house, try something like www.airbnb.com which specialise in holiday rentals.

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Request for help or suggestions 10/07/2015 at 19:28 #74094
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Gents and Ladies,

Finally I've got (almost) everything ready. Thanks to Peter's suggestion I'm buying a BritRail pass for some days (called a Flex Pass which allows non-consecutive usage).

I have a question which maybe some of the Scots on board may be able to advise on.

I'm arriving by train at Edinburgh on the 22nd Sep. (late PM after visiting York NRM). And I hope to catch a sleeper back to London on the evening of the 27th. As I understand there's sleepers from Fort William, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Inverness.

At my cousin's suggestion, moving around Scotland would probably be best by a rented car giving us more freedom to stop and stare wherever we want.

We would like to see some of the "real" Scotland (not just potter around cities). Have you any suggestions as to what would be a good itinerary for those days? As mentioned, I'd like to end up on the 27th at one of the main stations to catch the sleeper (I don't necessarily prefer any of the stations in particular).

I do realize that only 4 whole days is much too short to see much but I also had to balance Wales, Cornwall and North Yorkshire as well as London (and a lightning visit via the Chunnel to Paris to please my wife) and I only have those days to try and enjoy as much as possible of Scotland.

I don't mind travelling around but the idea is to also enjoy the places we end visiting (not just stop, photo, start again).

Once again, many thanks to all who have pitched in ideas to my original posts.

BTW, I've (nicely) solved the matter of where to sleep by very kind help from the family in the UK. Basically we've just about got a house to stay wherever we go (except Scotland and the couple of nights in Paris).

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Request for help or suggestions 11/07/2015 at 07:05 #74115
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Nroberts, I am a manager for a major rental company in UK - if you want some prices getting for you, just ask and I can see if I can whack some discount on
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Request for help or suggestions 11/07/2015 at 08:04 #74116
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" said:

We would like to see some of the "real" Scotland (not just potter around cities). Have you any suggestions as to what would be a good itinerary for those days? As mentioned, I'd like to end up on the 27th at one of the main stations to catch the sleeper (I don't necessarily prefer any of the stations in particular).
Depends on what you like doing, watching the scenery from the car, visiting castles, hill walking and so on.

Anyway a drive up the A9 from Perth to Inverness takes you past various towns like Pitlochry, Blair Atholl, Aviemore. Pitlochry has quite a famous Hydro Electric dam (quite small) but quite a nice setting. Blair Atholl has Blair Castle, the home of the Duke of Atholl which you can visit. Just a few miles North there's the falls of Brewer, where there's a shot walk from the car park up the side of the river to the falls. Aviemore has the Strathspey railway and you can drive up Cairn Gorme, also in the area is a Highland wildlife park.

From Inverness you can go North but with only 4 days you might not want to do that. You could head East towards Aberdeen, I don't know that area too well but there is apparently a Whiskey trail around Dufftown.

Alternatively head South West towards Fort William, down the side of Loch Ness - or towards Kyle and Skye. If you cross to Skye you can drive down to Armadale and the Ferry to Mallaig. Not a lot happens in Fort William but further South is Oban which is more bustling. Near Oban there's the Cruichan Pumped Storage Hydro electric station which you can visit, I found it interesting. South of that there's Inveraray castle, home of the Duke of Argyll.

Sorry have to go now.

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Request for help or suggestions 11/07/2015 at 08:20 #74117
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Glad your plans are coming together.

I'm not a Scot, but I absolutely love Scotland.

My advice would be to head North, either for Skye via Kyle of Localsh or the far North via Ullapool. If you get the right weather there is no better place on Earth.

On your way take in Perth and Inverness.

Ironically some of the best trips in Scotland are done by train: Glasgow to Mallaig, Perth to Inverness, Inverness to Wick and Thurso, Inverness to Kyle of Localsh.

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Request for help or suggestions 11/07/2015 at 10:39 #74122
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I can't remember which one I went to when I was up in Scottyland, but a visit to one of the distilleries would be interesting and enjoyable (especially if you get out of the driving that day)

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Request for help or suggestions 12/07/2015 at 10:08 #74150
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Just to revisit what I said about Fort William, there is of course the Jacobite steam train to Mallaig.

Heading South from there you have Loch Lomond and the Trossachs National Park and at Balloch there's the refurbished Maid of the Loch steamer (currently static).

More centrally there's Stirling Castle, Bannockburn and the Falkirk Wheel. We went to the latter last Easter and had an interesting few hours both travelling on it and just walking around and up the canal side Some photos here. Also the SRPS at Boness. Also in the area is Linlithgow Palace (never been but we were on our way when we got sidetracked by the wheel).

Useful sites:
National Trust for Scotland
Historic Scotland
Visit Scotland

NTS membership gives you access to related organisations in the rest of the UK and is slightly cheaper
Historic Scotland I believe has a similar tie-in with English Heritage.

Highland Wildlife park I mentioned earlier.

To the North of Dundee (my childhood area) you have less mountains, more hills and the Angus Glens which you can drive up and park and go for reasonably easy walks in the countryside. Glamis Castle, the childhood home of The Queen Mother is in that area.

Hope some of that's of use to you.

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Request for help or suggestions 12/07/2015 at 11:17 #74152
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If you can cope with not being planned then I would leave it as late as you can to check weather. The west in good weather is not to be missed, the west in bad weather really is just mist !
Even deciding on clockwise / anticlockwise could change your view.

My suggestion:
Keep Edinburgh for a less good day if you have to.

Edinburgh - M90 - Perth - A85 - Oban area.
(Forth bridge, good along the A85, some railway remnants.)
You could make it a 2 day stop in Oban area, fit in Glen Coe or go south for a part day.

Oban - Fort William - Mallaig - Skye.
(Connel bridge, Glenfinnan)

On Skye / nearby mainland depending on where you stay.

Skye - Fort Augustus - A86 - A9 Blair Atholl/ Pitlochry as Peter noted.
or
Skye - A86 Cairngorms, then A9 south next day.

With only a few days I think you would be committed to 2 days of pretty solid driving to do a tour north of Inverness

I have a 'holiday photos' website, not very up to date so the images are small but it might help:
http://www.gbphotos.co.uk/
http://www.mwwilson.plus.com/scwc.html
http://www.mwwilson.plus.com/scfn.html
One or two are even historic now !




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Request for help or suggestions 04/11/2015 at 15:48 #77450
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Request for help or suggestions 27/01/2016 at 17:03 #80148
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Gents and Ladies,

First off my apologies for the delay in coming back to this topic. I've had a rather hectic time making up lost time at work and a luckily brief sojourn at hospital for appendicitis.

Overall the family trip was a tremendous success.

As a general suggestion for anyone planning to visit the UK and travel around, the BritRail pass is EXCELLENT value. I finally purchased a Flex 8 day 1st class (gives you not necessarily consecutive days in a 30 day period starting at first use). I calculated that by the end of the 3rd day of use I was break-even (if I'd have had to purchase tickets individually). Any travelling after that was a "free" bonus.

Second suggestion, RESERVE seats. Some of the trains we travelled on were quite full up and advance seat reservations assured us places on the train. They can be reserved at *any* staffed station on the network.

Third suggestion. Whilst choosing 1st class is more expensive on almost all trains the comfort and onboard service make the travelling more enjoyable.

Fourth. If travelling mainly in Scotland, forget 1st class.

Whilst some may take offence to the last I'd like to point out that the (supposedly) 1st class from Edinburgh to Inverness undoubtedly lacked any significant difference to Standard.

Trips undertaken:
* 11/SEP Paddington to Newport (FGW HST 125 - 16:45 - 1st Class) - Very good and complete onboard service (Wifi, 220 sockets, USB sockets, free drinks and snacks)
* 11/SEP Newport to Ludlow (Arriva 175 - 18:35 - Standard Class only) - Packed full - luckily had seat reservations which were quickly given up by those who we circumstantially seated there. HST arrived about 8 late and the combination was quite tight (If we'd taken a bit more to cross over to Platform 4 we might have missed it. Onboard service rather limited
* 14/SEP Ludlow to Manchester Picc (Arriva 175 - 08:39 - 1W10 - Standard Only ) - A lot emptier this time. Onboard service decent (though no free stuff as only Standard Class)
* 14/SEP Machester Picc. to Scarborough (Transpenning 185 - 12:11 - 1st Class). Nice onboard service which unfortunately completely and absolutely dissapeared at York - No Wifi.
* 21/SEP Scarborough to York (Trasnpennine 185 - 07:38 - 1st Class - Like on the way in NO onboard service
* 21/SEP York to Edinburgh (Virgin, missed the class but I'd suspect HST 225) - Excellent onboard service - Wonderfull and quick trip (unfortunately it was raining hard so not much scenery to enjoy)
* 24/SEP Edinburgh to Inverness (ScotRail on a 158!!! - 10:35 (1st???) Class). I know the scots are supposed to be thrifty but the service on this train was PATHETIC!!! - Onboard service was Tea or Coffee and a "complimentary" little square of pastry, seats were the same as Standard (not quite comfortable for a 3 and a half hour trip), no wifi, no sockets, frankly quite below expectations.
* 27/SEP Fort William to London Euston (Caledonian Sleeper in VERY nice single sleeping berths) - Very good onboard service (dining and bar prices rather more expensive than expected). Very enjoyable trip. Note: Requires payment of an extra surcharge for the sleeper berths. On a "normal" 1st class ticket you get a comfortable coach. Highly enjoyable breakfast (not quite on par with some of the scots B&Bs but very good nonetheless).
* 29/SEP Paddington to St. Erth (FGW HST - 12:06 - 1st Class). Beautiful trip, wonderful scenery (particularly between Exeter and Newton Abbot and after Plymouth. Very good onboard service (we were getting used to enjoying it!).
* 29/SEP to 01/Oct St. Erth to St. Ives and viceversa (150 and 153's) - Only standard class - Spectacular scenery from the train (which is quite better than the bus which I had to catch at one poing because I missed the train with my family on board!!!)
* 01/OCT Penzance to Paddington (FGW Sleeper - 21:45 - 1st Class double berth) - Very comfortable although 57605 which was leading kept jerking the train. Eventually it appear to call it a day arriving at Plymouth until it was restarted and stopped shaking the train. 57603 wasn't needed in the end. Quite expensive onboard dining and the train was packed full. NOTE: Also surcharge applies for sleeping berth with 1st class tickets.
* 04/OCT St. Pancras - Gare du Nord (EUROSTAR - 09:22 - Standard class). Even though you may be told Britrail passes entitle you to a discount on the Eurostar, forget it. It would appear that the discount applies on very few seats on the most inconvenient journeys.
* 06/OCT Gare du Nord - St. Pancras (EUROSTAR - 11:13 - Standard class).

A note aside on the Eurostar. It frankly quite didn't come anywhere near my expectations. One gets treated just like at an airport (and the seats are about as uncomfortable as any economy class aircraft). I can say I actually did it but probably wouldn't do it again. The inordinately long check in times plus the surcharges (exhorbitant) for a change for an earlier train mean I'd have probably been able to do the trip in the same time and maybe cheaper than using the Eurostar.

Moving around London the Oyster Card is the way to go. You can return it at Heathrow (you get the original money paid for the card itself plus any remaining credit on it paid back in cash).

A note on VAT reclaim. Do it BEFORE check-in in luggage since you're expected to produce not only the purchase tickets (together with the paperwork which you MUST request at the shop) *AND THE PURCHASED GOODS* but also expect to spend probably around an hour at Heathrow. I finally decided that what I could reclaim was not much and ended up skipping it.

Almost finally, we found people in the UK inordinately helpful and friendly. Not only any questions were kindly answered but we had excellent suggestions in every place we went to. Such is this that my wife (who originally consented to the UK visit because my family lives there and said next trip would be only to Spain - her family) has now said that our next trip (whenever it is) will start in the UK, visit Spain and the return to the UK before coming home. Unfortunately our experience in Paris was completely the opposite. We were mistreated (including a young security man at the Louvre trying to manhandle my wife out of the queue) and basically as we were not french treated offhandedly and rudely. I actually tried English, Spanish and my very basic French and in every case was treated not very well. The best treatment we had was on leaving France at the Gare du Nord by the lady at inmigration (which I did thank her for).

To sum up, we had a magnificent time in the UK and although insufficient for all we would have liked to have done quite enjoyed it. All the places we visited (including a yet unmentioned drive across mid-scotland) we received something more than what we had expected.

Final gripe, MacDonald's in Scotland (didn't try elsewhere) had no mayonnaise ("we don't do mayonnaise"). Time to modernize :)

To all who have given suggestions on this forum thread I once again thank you. The suggestions and recommendations we definitely most useful and no doubt helped make this trip a highlight for my family.

If anyone is planning a visit and wants to ask anything further about my experience on this trip, please do so (either via this thread or via PM). Also in case anyone needs it, my email is Roberts1706@yahoo.com.ar

P.D. Our drive across mid-scotland was:
* Inverness down the A82 to Invergarry (recommend the Loch Ness museum - very good) and spending a while at Fort Augustus (specially if the locks are in use and you can see a boat or barge moving up or down). At Aberchalder take a couple of minutes to see the old river bridge and enjoy the canal.
* Invergarry A87 to Dornie. Don't miss the night view of Dornie Castle (see Braveheart movie). Unfortunately the visit inside is rather limited since you're not allowed to take photographs, etc. I've already taken this up with a close friend who belongs to the MacRae family!!!. Spent the night at the Old Schoolhouse in Dornie. Wonderful place, wonderful service.
* On Skye we did Kyleakin/Portree/Dunvegan/Struan/Sligachan/Broadford/Armadale. Surely a rather quick trip around but throroughly enjoyable. We also saw lots of walking options which we couldn't enjoy but maybe next time in a camper we could enjoy.
* Ferry across from Armadale to Mallaig. Highly recommended. Not only for the quality of service but also the scenery on the crossing.
* Mallaig to Arisaig. Stayed at Leven House (rather out of the way but the only place we could find rooming). Magnificent service even though rather far out from shops and restaurants.
* Arisaig to Fort William. If you didn't catch the locks at Fort Augustus there's a second chance just a few miles before Fort William (after Banavie).

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Request for help or suggestions 27/01/2016 at 17:26 #80149
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Forgot to add:
* Pickering to Whitby on NYMR (behind 76079 - BR Standard 4MT 2-6-0 )
* Whitby to Pickering on NYMR (behing D7628 - BR Class 25 - Bo-Bo)

Excellent trip and Whitby was amazing (well worth a visit to "downtown" across the bridge and the 192 steps up to the Abbey). Quite apart from the Abbey itself, the view is magnificent. However I didn't find the Fish and Chips from The Magpie that amazing. I had a nicer F&C at St. Ives!!!

I recommend looking out of the right hand side when approaching Whitby. The scenery is beautiful and seeing the tall bridge (of the Larpool viaduct) rising above is unique. Grosmont is worth quite a couple of hours to visit if you've the time.

Another suggestion which remained out in the previous post. If you're into castles and heritage it's worth joining the British Heritage (costs about GBP 80 a year for an adult) and you can take 3 visitors with you all free of charge entering museums and such like. If you consider that most entry fees (such as Rievaux, Whitby, etc.) cost about GBP 16 for an adult, 80 GBP for "free" access is really worth the cost.

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Request for help or suggestions 27/01/2016 at 17:47 #80150
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For those wondering about the "better" F&C at St.Ives, try the Dover Sole at the "Beach Restaurant" at St. Ives - we actually "took away" since we were lent a house about 200 yards away on Wharf Road (right above the Caffee Pasta and Pizzeria) - . Amazing and (excuse the language) one hell of a place to spend a few days...

P.D.2: Open to suggestions of other places to visit (now that my wife's agreed to a new UK visit)!

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Request for help or suggestions 27/01/2016 at 17:56 #80151
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Thanks for posting that- it's quite rare to get an "outside" perspective on UK rail services, and it's always interesting to read.

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* 24/SEP Edinburgh to Inverness (ScotRail on a 158!!! - 10:35 (1st???) Class). I know the scots are supposed to be thrifty but the service on this train was PATHETIC!!! - Onboard service was Tea or Coffee and a "complimentary" little square of pastry, seats were the same as Standard (not quite comfortable for a 3 and a half hour trip), no wifi, no sockets, frankly quite below expectations.
You were unlucky there- at least half of the services to Inverness are operated by Class 170s, which are somewhat more modern and (I'm fairly sure) have sockets.

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21/SEP York to Edinburgh (Virgin, missed the class but I'd suspect HST 225)
If it was diesel with slam doors, it was a HST the same as you'd used on the Great Western. If it was electric with power doors, it would've been a Class 91 loco with Mark 4 coaches and a DVT at the other end, sometimes known as an Inter-City 225 set (the 225 is kmh, and refers to the 140mph design speed of the stock).

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Request for help or suggestions 27/01/2016 at 18:12 #80153
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From what I gathered from the onboard staff, the 10:35 is *always* a 158 (which given the long journey I can't quite understand). I'm not "hitting" the 158 but it's really not something you want to plan for on 3 and a half hours of travelling. Also (not mentioned before) no extra leg-room :doh

York to EDB,
Most definitely power doors (it looked like a 91 or 92 - don't know the difference myself) and very sleek (a train a few minutes earlier on P11 was a CrossCountry 220 which we zipped past on the way). Quite a nippy trip and judging by the way scenery slipped by, quite fast (maybe not as much as the Euro$tar's 300 km/h but definitely fast).

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Request for help or suggestions 27/01/2016 at 22:52 #80158
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" said:
From what I gathered from the onboard staff, the 10:35 is *always* a 158 (which given the long journey I can't quite understand). I'm not "hitting" the 158 but it's really not something you want to plan for on 3 and a half hours of travelling. Also (not mentioned before) no extra leg-room :doh
25 of ScotRail's 158s are based at Inverness (for working Far North and Aberdeen services), the rest at Haymarket (Edinburgh), so there's one or two 'swap over' diagrams- possibly for certain types of maintenance or to put the units back in the right place after disruption. I agree, they're not as good as other types for long-distance services these days.

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Most definitely power doors (it looked like a 91 or 92 - don't know the difference myself) and very sleek (a train a few minutes earlier on P11 was a CrossCountry 220 which we zipped past on the way). Quite a nippy trip and judging by the way scenery slipped by, quite fast (maybe not as much as the Euro$tar's 300 km/h but definitely fast).
The 91s are good for 125mph. I'm fairly sure the four-track section north of York is cleared for that as well, and possibly other stretches.

The distinguishing feature of the 91s is that one end is pointed, the other blunt.

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Request for help or suggestions 28/01/2016 at 11:25 #80162
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From what I gathered from the onboard staff, the 10:35 is *always* a 158 (which given the long journey I can't quite understand). I'm not "hitting" the 158 but it's really not something you want to plan for on 3 and a half hours of travelling. Also (not mentioned before) no extra leg-room :doh

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Most definitely power doors (it looked like a 91 or 92 - don't know the difference myself) and very sleek (a train a few minutes earlier on P11 was a CrossCountry 220 which we zipped past on the way). Quite a nippy trip and judging by the way scenery slipped by, quite fast (maybe not as much as the Euro$tar's 300 km/h but definitely fast).
Your Scotrail 158 experience will vary as well depending if it's a Haymarket set, or an Inverness set. The two types have different interiors.

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Request for help or suggestions 31/01/2016 at 09:13 #80256
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158s being refurbished.

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