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4M58 HELD AT KE46 09/03/2015 at 12:59 #69919
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Train 4M58 is held at KE46 on the approach to Kew East Junct: "points set against train".
Any ideas anyone, other than removing the train?

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 09/03/2015 at 15:01 #69924
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Will have a look into this, as not had this problem arrise before.
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4M58 HELD AT KE46 19/12/2015 at 11:41 #78961
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Forgot to update the post, this has been fixed.
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4M58 HELD AT KE46 07/01/2017 at 15:22 #91349
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Hpotter in post 78961 said:
Forgot to update the post, this has been fixed.
This seems odd then. I've just resumed a session starting at 12.50 after 'checking for updates' in the loader and have got the same situation. Train 4M58 is held at KE46 on the approach to Kew East Junct. and the train list says "points set against train".
If this issue has been fixed, I would have thought that any re-release would have loaded during the loader update??
I have attached a saved game to illustrate the problem.
Please let me know what I do next as this route to Kew East Junction is now blocked.

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 07/01/2017 at 15:26 #91350
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Small point of clarity - your save already has the points set against the train - the cause of the issue has been fixed, they won't (shouldn't!) get in to that state again, but you need to resume from a save before those points got in to an erroneous state.
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4M58 HELD AT KE46 07/01/2017 at 15:59 #91354
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JamesN in post 91350 said:
Small point of clarity - your save already has the points set against the train - the cause of the issue has been fixed, they won't (shouldn't!) get in to that state again, but you need to resume from a save before those points got in to an erroneous state.
Perhaps you could clarify something for me. I remember a train joining the sim at this point a little earlier, but apart from that I don't recall anything else happening here, so how would points be set against the train and have you any idea how far back this would have happened?

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 08/01/2017 at 00:17 #91360
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A point to remember: H Potter said it was fixed. The fix will not occur immediately to your sim. Hopefully it will occur when you receive the next update of the Loader.

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 20/04/2017 at 10:55 #94601
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Hi just to update, I always check for updates each time I start Simsig, I am currently half way through a Feltham game and have exactly the same problem
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4M58 HELD AT KE46 20/04/2017 at 12:58 #94603
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I have ran various senario's of trains running to/from Kew East JN to New and Old Kew JN's, and all have the same result of "points set against train" for 4M58 (going from old Kew JN to Kew East JN) in most of my senario's trains had been going to or coming from Kew East JN to New Kew JN, however my last senario, was to send 4M58 from Old Kew JN to Kew East JN first and having no trains going to or from New Kew JN to Kew East JN (accomplished by holding trains on Main line or for trains coming from Kew East having them classed as entered already, but not in the sim) 4M58 stops at KE46 and then reports in F2 "points set against train"

Versions:
Feltham 1.1.1
Loader 4.6.1

Having looked at the TT, 4M58 as far as I can tell is the only train to go from old Kew JN to Kew East JN, most trains leaving sim at South Acton go from New Kew JN to Kew East

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 20/04/2017 at 13:33 #94604
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Mantis #14368 applies to this issue. It was reported on 20/10/15 and marked fixed the same day. I don't think the fixed version was ever released.
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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4M58 HELD AT KE46 25/04/2017 at 20:47 #94704
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A new version of Feltham is now available via check for updates.
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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4M58 HELD AT KE46 13/02/2018 at 20:09 #105893
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Got this problem having checked for updates and not found any.
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4M58 HELD AT KE46 13/02/2018 at 22:20 #105897
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Trainfan344 in post 105893 said:
Got this problem having checked for updates and not found any.
Can you confirm which version of loader and sim you are using?

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 14/02/2018 at 14:46 #105914
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Loader version is 4.6.11
Sim version 1.2

Session is continued from the Feltham Challenge save.

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 14/02/2018 at 15:16 #105915
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Trainfan344 in post 105914 said:
Loader version is 4.6.11
Sim version 1.2

Session is continued from the Feltham Challenge save.
Was the save made before/about April 2017?

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 14/02/2018 at 17:08 #105918
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The original save was yes.
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4M58 HELD AT KE46 14/02/2018 at 17:18 #105919
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Trainfan344 in post 105918 said:
The original save was yes.
I would say that is why 4M58 is still held at KE46, as sim version 1.2 was only released at the end of April 2017 and even though you may have the version that is fixed, the save was created on the version prior (which had that issue), save games are not always compatable with updated sim versions.

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 18/03/2019 at 13:48 #116440
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I am confused. Has this been fixed or not? I have only recently purchased this game and this problem is still occurring.
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4M58 HELD AT KE46 17/11/2019 at 19:54 #121750
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Any chance of a reply from anyone?
lawrm in post 116440 said:
I am confused. Has this been fixed or not? I have only recently purchased this game and this problem is still occurring.

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 17/11/2019 at 20:24 #121754
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lawrm in post 121750 said:
Any chance of a reply from anyone?
lawrm in post 116440 said:
I am confused. Has this been fixed or not? I have only recently purchased this game and this problem is still occurring.
The developer no longer develops but we may be able to address the bug, if indeed there is one.

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 18/11/2019 at 17:43 #121777
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lawrm in post 116440 said:
I am confused. Has this been fixed or not? I have only recently purchased this game and this problem is still occurring.
Some questions:

Are you experiencing this in a current game?
If so, when did you start this game?
What is the current version of the Loader you have?
What is the current version of the Sim you have?

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 12/04/2021 at 16:19 #138558
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I've experienced this bug in a game started in the last few weeks.

Loader 5.13
Feltham 1.2

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4M58 HELD AT KE46 12/04/2021 at 16:31 #138559
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I've logged this against Mantis 21575 to be looked into and have attached that snapshot.
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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4M58 HELD AT KE46 13/04/2021 at 08:52 #138564
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Another daya point: I've just run all the way through Feltham (Sim v 5.13, sim v 1.2) and had the same for any train trying to leave the sim via Old Kew - Kew East. I can provide additional saves if needed.
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4M58 HELD AT KE46 13/04/2021 at 10:30 #138565
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No need for anymore saves thanks - just testing v1.3 of the sim now and the issue appears to be fixed
Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!!
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