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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 08/05/2015 at 13:34 #71943
DaveHarries
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Hi,

Not sure if I have found a bug with Salisbury but just now, when I tried to reverse 5L02 into Platform 3 after 5L03 had arrived there it said: "route not available". SHould I havwe let 5L02 into P3 first? In the end I ended up manually doing the points then doing SPAD when he rang in.

Dave

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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 08/05/2015 at 13:39 #71944
Stephen Fulcher
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Not got the sim to hand Dave, but see what happens if you wait a moment and then try again.

It may be that there is route locking that has to be released by time, but as the TC is occupied you would not be able to see that.

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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 08/05/2015 at 13:44 #71945
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Tried it several times before allowing the SPAD. It has done it now!

Dave

Last edited: 08/05/2015 at 13:45 by DaveHarries
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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 08/05/2015 at 13:51 #71946
Stephen Fulcher
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Did you have to tell the train to pass the signal at danger?
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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 08/05/2015 at 14:37 #71951
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There's a 120sec timeout for permissive entry from opposite directions.
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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 08/05/2015 at 16:39 #71974
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" said:
There's a 120sec timeout for permissive entry from opposite directions.
Is this indicated anywhere on the panel? I thought that might be the case when it took me a couple of minutes before the route would set...

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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 08/05/2015 at 16:46 #71975
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No it wouldn't be because the route lights that would indicate that would be suppressed by the track circuit being occupied.
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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 08/05/2015 at 17:17 #71980
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Guessing there are no direction arrows or anything on the panel, then? Ah well, if it's prototypical, just have to put up with the weirdness
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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 09/05/2015 at 01:28 #71994
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Guessing there are no direction arrows or anything on the panel, then? Ah well, if it's prototypical, just have to put up with the weirdness :p
Why is it weird? Obviously designed for safety reasons! The panel operator would be aware of the condition.

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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 09/05/2015 at 02:38 #71995
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The weirdness as in the lack of any indication that the route is locked (eg directional arrows on the platform lines), rather than the fact that the route locking exists in the first place. But yeah, point taken, obviously the actual panel operators would be trained to know about the lock.
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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 09/05/2015 at 04:04 #71996
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It's not that unusual, is it? I certainly strikes me as something that appears in other Simsigs - New Street would be an obvious one.
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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 09/05/2015 at 04:12 #71997
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Hmm, I don't recall if it's present in New Street or not, I haven't played it in a little while. But point taken, maybe it's more common than my memory is telling me...
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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 09/05/2015 at 05:20 #71998
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Directional arrows are there but hidden, as no sign of the shown on the panel pics, whereas they are displayed on the single line sections towards Gillingham.
They have to have a time-out condition to allow permissive working from the opposite condition, the tier is set at 120s to ensure the first train is at a stand before the second can approach.

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Salisbury S217 to Salisbury P3 09/05/2015 at 07:11 #72001
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Unless you got it from the control tables, I'd say 120 seconds is far too much. Most timing to a stand is around 30-45 seconds depending on the track circuit length.

Obviously if you took the time from the control tables or wiring diagrams I'll shut up!!

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