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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 05/08/2015 at 20:19 #74796
DaveHarries
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Hi,

Firstly thanks for the release of Huddersfield. Good to have another one-player sim to practice on when no sessions are going. Surprisingly busy as you say and well done to all involved with the writing and testing of this sim.

One point though. When routing 5B61 I realised I had set a wrong route so I cancelled the route set from signal 774, thereby ACOA'ing the train. However after the route had cancelled I set the correct route - but the driver of 5B61 failed to ring in to report the ACOA.

Surely he should have done so?

Dave

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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 05/08/2015 at 21:20 #74797
GeoffM
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There is a bit of intelligence built in - if the driver was beyond the sighting distance for the signal, and didn't get an unexpected aspect (eg green last signal, red this signal), then he'll be blissfully unaware of what you did.
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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 05/08/2015 at 21:22 #74798
DaveHarries
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Cheers Geoff. Often thought it was about time something like that became possible.

Dave

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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 05/08/2015 at 21:29 #74799
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I would also like to express my thanks to Geoff and the developers. Very nice to finally have a West Yorkshire sim!
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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 06/08/2015 at 10:50 #74813
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I'll second these thanks! I know what I'll be doing after work today...
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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 06/08/2015 at 15:42 #74821
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Just playing around before possibly buying the sim, Don't know if its intentional or not, but its possible to reverse 2228 points while a route is set from shunt signal 1412, causing said signal to revert to danger. Suspect these points should be locked, but aren't once called when routing into Platform 4, 5 or 6
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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 06/08/2015 at 16:18 #74822
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" said:
Just playing around before possibly buying the sim, Don't know if its intentional or not, but its possible to reverse 2228 points while a route is set from shunt signal 1412, causing said signal to revert to danger. Suspect these points should be locked, but aren't once called when routing into Platform 4, 5 or 6
Thanks, reported.

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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 06/08/2015 at 22:08 #74837
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Who is the dev, out of interest?
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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 06/08/2015 at 22:47 #74838
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Who is the dev, out of interest?
Noel Young.

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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 07/08/2015 at 09:57 #74848
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Having my usual mess around, seems that the TD's at Penistone behave erratically. If you have several trains enter in quick succession they overwrite the TD that is already there, despite the first train not moving.
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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 08/08/2015 at 03:04 #74887
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I'm finding trains using Call ons in P4 are deleting the TD's for berth trains and replacing with their own, rather than pushing the existing TD to the rear berth and occupying the front berth.
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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 08/08/2015 at 14:31 #74905
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Having my usual mess around, seems that the TD's at Penistone behave erratically. If you have several trains enter in quick succession they overwrite the TD that is already there, despite the first train not moving.
Hmm, you should not be able to enter trains in quick succession. I'll have a look once I've unpacked from my holibobs

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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 09/08/2015 at 18:03 #74941
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I've also noticed at huddersfield TD's dont drop off if the related TC empties like they do on other sims. so for instance 2z00 arrives in P4 and its TD steps to HU763. i input 2Z01 as a TD at HU764. when 2Z01 departs its TD steps but 2Z00 remains at HU763's Berth.
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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 09/08/2015 at 18:31 #74942
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HU770 will not clear into P5.

appears to be a one off. I can't replicate it.

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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 10/08/2015 at 20:14 #74980
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Possible overlap bug on signal 704, just below the Marsden GF controls on the diagram.

In my screen grab 2M61 has not quite cleared the overlap, still on track sircuit TAF, but the stop signal in rear, 716, has cleared when track circuit TAGA has become unoccupied - this being the track circuit the signal is drawn above.


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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 10/08/2015 at 20:20 #74981
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Also noted: DE2 clears to green as soon as a train in advance has passed the next signal, SE112, as if a repeater for the latter is missing from the sim.
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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 10/08/2015 at 22:48 #74985
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" said:
Possible overlap bug on signal 704, just below the Marsden GF controls on the diagram.

In my screen grab 2M61 has not quite cleared the overlap, still on track sircuit TAF, but the stop signal in rear, 716, has cleared when track circuit TAGA has become unoccupied - this being the track circuit the signal is drawn above.

I can't recreate tis or find anything that would cause it to happen.

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Also noted: DE2 clears to green as soon as a train in advance has passed the next signal, SE112, as if a repeater for the latter is missing from the sim.
Fixed

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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 10/08/2015 at 22:51 #74986
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Both fixed
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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 23/08/2015 at 19:31 #75396
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Found another one, now that I've reached 2300 in the timetable. 2B94 from the Down Branch is scheduled to join on P4 with 2E86 which is already in the platform. However, setting the call on route from HU753 to HU763 neither the running shunt 1411 (in the tunnel on the Up Main) nor 753's subsidiary clear for the route. Had to talk 2B94 past both signals.



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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 24/08/2015 at 08:02 #75399
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Found another one, now that I've reached 2300 in the timetable. 2B94 from the Down Branch is scheduled to join on P4 with 2E86 which is already in the platform. However, setting the call on route from HU753 to HU763 neither the running shunt 1411 (in the tunnel on the Up Main) nor 753's subsidiary clear for the route. Had to talk 2B94 past both signals.


Looks like it's because both track circuits are occupied. Has the train moved right down?

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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 24/08/2015 at 08:29 #75401
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Everything reported so far has been fixed. As soon as work gives me a chance to be around at the same time as Geoff I'll ask him to send the update out to the loader
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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 24/08/2015 at 10:48 #75410
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If the route was set to the yellow arrow at 763 then 753 won't clear as thats a warner route not a call on route. The full route needs set for 753 to clear.

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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 24/08/2015 at 11:22 #75412
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If the route was set to the yellow arrow at 763 then 753 won't clear as thats a warner route not a call on route. The full route needs set for 753 to clear.

Tim
That's correct, however the situation in the picture is a bit more complicated than that.

The call-on route from 753 won't clear if the track circuit in platform 4 closest to 764 is occupied. This could have been deliberately designed into the interlocking to reduce the chance of the back of the arriving train overhanging 764 and blocking the junction. If so, the stopping position of 2E86 needs adjusting so that it occupies the far track circuit only. Alternatively, it could be a simulation error and the call-on should clear with either TC occupied. Presumably, Noel will know which one is the case.

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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 24/08/2015 at 13:01 #75417
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If the route was set to the yellow arrow at 763 then 753 won't clear as thats a warner route not a call on route. The full route needs set for 753 to clear.

Tim
It's not set to the warner, though I did try that as well. It is set to the "full route", i.e. signal to signal.

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Thanks - and a possible bug....! 24/08/2015 at 13:04 #75418
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If the route was set to the yellow arrow at 763 then 753 won't clear as thats a warner route not a call on route. The full route needs set for 753 to clear.

Tim
That's correct, however the situation in the picture is a bit more complicated than that.

The call-on route from 753 won't clear if the track circuit in platform 4 closest to 764 is occupied. This could have been deliberately designed into the interlocking to reduce the chance of the back of the arriving train overhanging 764 and blocking the junction. If so, the stopping position of 2E86 needs adjusting so that it occupies the far track circuit only. Alternatively, it could be a simulation error and the call-on should clear with either TC occupied. Presumably, Noel will know which one is the case.
2E86 was far enough down that 2B94 did fit in behind when I talked him past. Neither train is very long as you can see.

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