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| kent or dorset 15/08/2015 at 17:20 #75140 | |
rodney30
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having been born in kent near Sittingbourne and now living in Bournemouth I would like to see these areas as a sim. south west main line through Bournemouth. the kent coast line through the medway towns and beyond. good job this is a wish list Rodney 30 Log in to reply |
| kent or dorset 15/08/2015 at 19:58 #75141 | |
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Andy174
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A sim in North Kent in the 80's/90's would be interesting. Perhaps the area covered by Dartford ASC then Rochester/Gillingham/Sittingbourne/Faversham boxes including the Medway Valley & Sheerness branch. Plenty of freight traffic at this time around Hoo Jcn/Isle of Grain/Sheerness etc. If this develops I'm happy to be contacted re these workings.
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| kent or dorset 15/08/2015 at 19:59 #75142 | |
madaboutrains
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On the East Kent lines you have a nice selection of boxes. Rochester  Gillingham  Rainham  Sittingbourne  Then Gillingham ROC continues from a mile or so from Sittingbourne to Ramsgate (in)/ Near Dover (ex). However if it was simulated in the 2009 era lets say, we would have Faversham, Margate and Ramsgate. Rochester, Gillingham, Rainham & Sittingbourne are due to close next year at some point which 2 workstations in Gillingham will take over. - Sittingbourne: controlling Gillingham (in) to Teynsham (Ex) Fringing with the Faversham Desk. with control of the Sherness branch still being controlled by Sittingbourne for a few months - but I personally I think it may stay controlling the Sheerness branch for a few years like Tonbridge now does controlling Tonbridge (ex) to Stonegate (ex) via Tunbridge Wells. - Rochester: controlling Meopham to Gillingham (ex) and at some point afterwards controlling from Rochester to Higham taking over some of the North Kent lines (formally controlled by Dartford PSB) it will also fringe with Cuxton on the Maidstone line. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. RIP Feltham Panel 1 Log in to reply The following user said thank you: saxbophone |
| kent or dorset 15/08/2015 at 20:30 #75143 | |
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Andy174
90 posts |
The problem with any sim in this area post the early 90's is that most of the freight had vanished as the heavy industries closed down. A late 80's/early 90's one could include the following: Sheerness Steelworks (2 freights a day which also shunted Queenborough sidings & Ridham scrap metal),coal traffic into Ridham sidings. Medway Valley line:Halling cement works, coal train into Brookgate (New Hythe), aggregate into ARC at Allington, numerous engineering trains. Grain branch: container & aggregate trains. Coal working to Betteshanger colliery. Steel traffic to Chatham Dockyard, paper mill at Sittingbourne & various light engine movements between these locations/Hoo Jcn/Gillingham stabling sidings as well as the passenger workings throughout this area.
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| kent or dorset 16/08/2015 at 09:23 #75148 | |
58050
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Don't forget Northfleet Blue Circle Industries. I used to go there in 1986-1988 when I was on te footplate at Bedford with MGR trains to Northfleet worked by Cl.58 or Cl.56 locos. We had 2 jobs 1742 book on to work 7O85 to Northfleet from Bedford & 2226 book on to work 7O30 to Northfleet. Another MGR service ran & past Bedford either before we left on 7O30 or after us subject to how that was running 7O34 Oxcroft Colliery - Ridham Dock conveying coal for Bowaters paper mill. That train was usually worked by a Xl.56 as far as Cricklewood Receess Sdgs where a pair of Cl.73 loco would take it to Ridham & return. There was also alot of cement traffic dispatched from Northfleet by rail to Theale, Dunstable & other locations around the south east usually worked by pairs of Cl.33 locos. Northfleet BCI also had a train or 2 a day conveying gypsum as the gypsum line at Northfleet was next to the coal line although the coal discharging plant & the gypsum discharhing plants were quite some distance apart. Northfleet BCI also had its own PSB which IIRC was an NX panel as the mess room was next to the room where the anel was.
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| kent or dorset 16/08/2015 at 12:09 #75152 | |
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Southernrover
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I used to live next to Crayford Station from 1986-97 and the freight traffic was much more varied than today. There were the Mountfield to Northfleet Gypsum workings and numerous Cement workings from Northfleet to places already mentioned. Slam door stock was the order of the day the highlight of which was a 2HAP/MLV working that came up from the Dartford direction mid afternoon offloaded mailbags (all done by GPO staff) into a waiting mail van then the train continued along the Sidcup loop to who knows where? There were also the Channel Tunnel segment trains (cant remember how many a day) and their return empty workings. There was an empty cement working on a Saturday morning that used to shunt back into Crayford Down Siding-long since abolished with the Class 33 loco going away on the down road towards Dartford. Any sim timetable of that era would certainly have quite some variety. Rick Last edited: 16/08/2015 at 12:13 by Southernrover Reason: Added Info added Log in to reply |
| kent or dorset 16/08/2015 at 12:41 #75154 | |
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Andy174
90 posts |
Nice to see the photo of Gillingham box where I started as a boxboy in 86. No white levers then, it was I believe a class D box and one of the busiest in the area. It looks a simple layout but with only 3 platforms it only took for an eqpt failure and trains would soon mount up especially as only the up main and loop were reversible. Add the EMU depot, level crossing, chatham dockyard OTW branch, 3 stabling sidings for light engines (Gillingham was a traincrew depot from which most of the local freight crews were supplied hence the stabling sidings) and it was a pretty hectic place at times. The sheerness branch was single line once onto the island and a lot of thought had to go into fitting in the various freight/light engine movements amongst the passenger services as it was only 2 aspect signalling.
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| kent or dorset 16/08/2015 at 13:19 #75155 | |
DriverCurran
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Rick I have a 1980/81 PCWN and this shows two Mail workings at Crayford 1) 14:05 Dover Priory to Crayford arrives 15:40 - Formed 1 x Cl 419 on arrival to form 15+46 Crayford to Stewarts Lane Depot (Starts out on the 09:45 London Victoria to Dover Western Docks as part of an Ostend boat train) 2) 22:35 Dover Priory to Crayford arrives 00:04 - Formed 1 x Cl 419 on arrival to form 00+10 Crayford to London Victoria. (Starts out on the 17+41 Stewarts Lane to London Victoria) Not quite the same period as no 2 Hap on the working but will give an idea of the working Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Southernrover |
| kent or dorset 16/08/2015 at 14:12 #75156 | |
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Southernrover
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Hi Paul, Thanks for the info. Not sure why the HAP was part of the train-maybe for extra mail capacity. Wasn't aware that there was a night working as well. I certainly remember the GPO staff were usually quite quick with the unloading. Regards, Rick Log in to reply |
| kent or dorset 22/09/2015 at 06:08 #76113 | |
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bri2808
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Living close to Crayford (closer to Slade Green Depot) I would love to see this area covered. Crayford sidings have still not been fully ripped up and remain in evidence to this day.
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| kent or dorset 22/09/2015 at 12:30 #76123 | |
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Noisynoel
989 posts |
Is Maidstone East not enough for you people! Do I have to do more of Kent!
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| kent or dorset 22/09/2015 at 13:56 #76126 | |
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TimTamToe
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" said:Is Maidstone East not enough for you people! Do I have to do more of Kent!Technically there is also Kent included in Victoria Central & Victoria Eastern :whistle: Log in to reply |
| kent or dorset 22/09/2015 at 15:58 #76127 | |
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DriverCurran
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Bri Just from a professional point of view (Crayford is on my patch at work) where were the sidings located? Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply |
| kent or dorset 22/09/2015 at 17:05 #76129 | |
DaveHarries
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Nice idea. A Kent one might indeed be interesting. I would, however, suggest expanding the area covered by such a sim with the addition of a panel to cover the area currently controlled by the boxes at Cuxton, Snodland, Aylesford, Maidstone West, East Farleigh and Wateringbury which, I believe, are due to close in 2016. Cuxton is a neighbour of Gillingham so such an extension could fit nicely. Dave Last edited: 22/09/2015 at 17:07 by DaveHarries Log in to reply |
| kent or dorset 22/09/2015 at 17:32 #76130 | |
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Noisynoel
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Cuxton is no Neighbour of Gillingham. It currently Fringes to North Kent 2, but will late fringe to East Kent Signalling Centre, Rochester Workstation. Additional Halling and Snodland are deceased (Halling a while back, Snodland last year) Noisynoel Log in to reply The following user said thank you: DaveHarries |
| kent or dorset 22/09/2015 at 19:12 #76134 | |
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DaveHarries
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Noel, You are right,. Just looked back at Google Earth again and realised I should have said Rochester. Rochester PSB controls Strood Junction which is on the line to Cuxton. Dave Last edited: 22/09/2015 at 20:36 by DaveHarries Log in to reply |
| kent or dorset 22/09/2015 at 20:32 #76139 | |
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DaveHarries
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" said:Is Maidstone East not enough for you people! Do I have to do more of Kent! You don't have to: just ideas. Saying that I have often thought that Ashford - which would chain to Maidstone East (fringe Chartham / Hortham area) as well as Victoria SE (fringes at Bat & Ball, Petts Wood, Chislehurst and Fawkham Jcn) as well as the line from Ashford down via. Hamstreet towards the mechanican SB at Rye - would be a good sim for one or two players. I would compile it myself but have neither data nor know-how. Dave Last edited: 22/09/2015 at 20:34 by DaveHarries Log in to reply |
| kent or dorset 22/09/2015 at 20:35 #76140 | |
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Noisynoel
989 posts |
No, Rochester does not control Strood Junction. As I said Cuxton fringes North Kent 2. North Kent 2 controls Country side of Strood to Country side of Dartford, thus controls the junction at Strood. Rochester controls.... Rochester & Rochester Bride Junction
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| kent or dorset 22/09/2015 at 20:37 #76141 | |
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DaveHarries
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" said:No, Rochester does not control Strood Junction. As I said Cuxton fringes North Kent 2. North Kent 2 controls Country side of Strood to Country side of Dartford, thus controls the junction at Strood. Rochester controls.... Rochester & Rochester Bride Junction OK thanks for the clarification. " said: Is Maidstone East not enough for you people! Do I have to do more of Kent! You don't have to: just ideas. Saying that I have often thought that Ashford - which would chain to Maidstone East (fringe Chartham / Hortham area) as well as Victoria SE (fringes at Bat & Ball, Petts Wood, Chislehurst and Fawkham Jcn) as well as covering the line from Ashford down via. Hamstreet towards the mechanical SB at Rye - would be a good sim for one or two players. I would compile it myself but have neither data nor know-how. Log in to reply |
| kent or dorset 22/09/2015 at 21:02 #76142 | |
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JamesN
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" said:" said:Ashford is a 5 signaller grade 9 IECC, I'd suggest 4 players as a minimum...No, Rochester does not control Strood Junction. As I said Cuxton fringes North Kent 2. North Kent 2 controls Country side of Strood to Country side of Dartford, thus controls the junction at Strood. Rochester controls.... Rochester & Rochester Bride Junction Log in to reply |
| kent or dorset 22/09/2015 at 23:44 #76146 | |
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DaveHarries
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" said:Ashford is a 5 signaller grade 9 IECC, I'd suggest 4 players as a minimum... Oh. I had forgotten it is an IECC and is on the list of areas that cannot be simulated unless someone, other than GeoffM, has a go at it. :( Dave Log in to reply |
| kent or dorset 23/09/2015 at 11:29 #76157 | |
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John
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" said:Is Maidstone East not enough for you people! Do I have to do more of Kent!The old Dartford box area really needs doing, Noel when you get a spare moment. :cheer: Log in to reply The following user said thank you: madaboutrains |
| kent or dorset 23/09/2015 at 14:15 #76164 | |
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bri2808
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" said:BriHi Paul; There is still old track laid on the approach to the Dartford Bound platform at Crayford (Sainsburys side) and I believe but will stand corrected that there was track as you left Crayford, London bound towards Bexley prior to the Car Park at the station being extended. I have seen old photo's of this area and will try to locate them and throw them on here Have to say I would love this area to be done, plenty that could be done with the Metro services and there always appears to be freight going through especially in front of my train in the morning :angry: :angry: Log in to reply |
| kent or dorset 08/03/2016 at 22:55 #81106 | |
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djdeadman
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Yes please Noel!
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