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Frodsham Junction entry point 17/02/2016 at 08:22 #80724
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Hello I have tried to timetable a train to enter a 100% of the time and it does not want to appear. I also get a message no valid path Frodsham to HaltonJunction.

A Folly Lane entry has not appeared either

N.B. I am not doing anything differently to the way i program other entries on other sims.

Glyn

Last edited: 17/02/2016 at 08:38 by geswedey
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Frodsham Junction entry point 17/02/2016 at 09:34 #80725
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" said:
Hello I have tried to timetable a train to enter a 100% of the time and it does not want to appear. I also get a message no valid path Frodsham to HaltonJunction.

A Folly Lane entry has not appeared either

N.B. I am not doing anything differently to the way i program other entries on other sims.

Glyn
If an individual train TT does not validate then the loader software does not allow the train to enter. There is an option to check the validation of a TT when you are entering the data and you should also get a message when you OK the train TT that the TT is not valid. You should also see a list of invalid TTs when you run the TT analyser.

The TT may not validate because it has not been entered correctly (you haven't got all of the locations required when entering the TT) or because the developer has not input the data to create the paths your TT requires. Presumably the paths have all been present in your previous TT writing exploits.

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Frodsham Junction entry point 17/02/2016 at 13:32 #80729
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Thanks,

Timetable has validated in both directions with 100% running

Folly lane train has now appeared, Frodsham one hasn't yet.

Will keep trying.

Glyn

Last edited: 17/02/2016 at 13:48 by geswedey
Reason: change of timetable compilation status.

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Frodsham Junction entry point 17/02/2016 at 14:18 #80730
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It doesn't appear to be possible to use the Halton Junction location: Frodsham Jn-> Halton Jn is invalid, as is Weaver Jn-> Halton Jn. Halton Jn-> Runcorn also invalid. This is a simulation bug.

It is possible, however, to timetable trains directly from Frodsham Jn to Runcorn, and from Weaver Jn to Runcorn.

I've just tested and an entry point of Frodsham Jn and first location Runcorn works, and a train appears.

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Frodsham Junction entry point 17/02/2016 at 15:10 #80733
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I amended one of my Frodsham entries to Weaver Junction and the train duly appeared.
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Frodsham Junction entry point 17/02/2016 at 16:27 #80734
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Success train now entered at Frodsham

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Frodsham Junction entry point 21/02/2021 at 22:07 #137392
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Track Maps 4:37A shows that there is a (non-electrified) crossover from Up Ditton to reach the Frodsham Single, which isn't shown on the sim.

Was this installed after the simulated date of this sim? As at the moment it seems impossible to route from Runcorn towards Chester!

NB: The corresponding entry route EFRODSHMJ has a timing point on Chester at HALTONJ, so the sims probably don't chain right towards Edge Hill either :)

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Frodsham Junction entry point 21/02/2021 at 22:15 #137393
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The curve becoming bi-directional again, along with the other resignalling that's taken place on Merseyside in the last few years, is outside the scope of the Edge Hill simulation.
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Frodsham Junction entry point 21/02/2021 at 22:52 #137394
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9pN1SEAp in post 137392 said:
Track Maps 4:37A shows that there is a (non-electrified) crossover from Up Ditton to reach the Frodsham Single, which isn't shown on the sim.

Was this installed after the simulated date of this sim? As at the moment it seems impossible to route from Runcorn towards Chester!

NB: The corresponding entry route EFRODSHMJ has a timing point on Chester at HALTONJ, so the sims probably don't chain right towards Edge Hill either :)

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Chester and Edge Hill chain together fine, but you must be running the Chester 2006 era which simulated the curve as uni-drectional.

I'm sure if you try and connect them in the later Chester era you get some red messages in the message box on Chester.

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