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| Cambridge - reversing at DSL Sig 147 14/08/2016 at 17:27 #84088 | |
Red For Danger
169 posts |
Hi All, Not sure if I'm being a bit thick here but trains reversing at Sig 147 on the Down Slow at Cambridge always loose time and incur penalty points. Not sure what's happening, but the trains seem to leave the location slightly late, and the SIM then applies the penalty. Tried to amend the time-table to allow more time to reverse, changed the times to all the options (ie setting the options to Passing Time / Set Down Only / Thru Line stop etc), but none of these seem to make any difference. Does anybody have any suggestions as to how to avoid the penalty....? Thanks. Log in to reply |
| Cambridge - reversing at DSL Sig 147 15/08/2016 at 01:25 #84096 | |
BarryM
2158 posts |
" said:Hi All,I ran this sim. Using the Normal Scenario, the first train to use sig 147 (5H03) ran without any problems. No penalties. Perhaps you selected a difficult scenario. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| Cambridge - reversing at DSL Sig 147 15/08/2016 at 20:36 #84101 | |
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Red For Danger
169 posts |
Thanks Barry, I'm running the Sim in developer mode (ie with all failures / delays turned off) and the issue is that all trains reversing at this signal wait for nearly a minute after the allotted departure time, and when they finally leave they are then a minute late passing the signal and incur a penalty. As stated previously, I have tried amending the tt to give a longer turn round time, and also adjusted the time allowed to run into the platform, both to no avail as the issue persists. If anybody has any suggestions they would be gratefully received. Log in to reply |
| Cambridge - reversing at DSL Sig 147 15/08/2016 at 21:51 #84102 | |
Steamer
3922 posts |
Which timetable is this happening on? I've just tested with a 20m long Class 5 train from Coalfields to Camridge via 147, allowing about 15 minutes for the reversal and it departed on time. How long are your trains, how long are they timetabled to reverse, and can you confirm they're running as class 5? "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Cambridge - reversing at DSL Sig 147 16/08/2016 at 17:10 #84105 | |
clive
2738 posts |
There is nothing special about that location in the sim.
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| Cambridge - reversing at DSL Sig 147 16/08/2016 at 20:31 #84117 | |
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Red For Danger
169 posts |
" said:Which timetable is this happening on?Yes - the trains in question are all class 5's, and they are reversing having left the carriage sidings (3 to 5) on the supplied 2003 summer tt. All trains so far from the sidings have experienced the same issue, and all are 4 car emu's at about 80m long. Just installed Cambridge again after changing the computer, running windows 10 with no problems on anything else. If anybody has any suggestions on how to avoid the penalty it would be appreciated. Thanks. Log in to reply |
| Cambridge - reversing at DSL Sig 147 16/08/2016 at 20:36 #84118 | |
headshot119
4869 posts |
" said:" said:Clive who is the simulation developer for Cambridge has said there is nothing special about the location, and BarryM has reported he can't reproduce the issue. It may not be something anyone else is experiencing.Which timetable is this happening on?Yes - the trains in question are all class 5's, and they are reversing having left the carriage sidings (3 to 5) on the supplied 2003 summer tt. All trains so far from the sidings have experienced the same issue, and all are 4 car emu's at about 80m long. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Cambridge - reversing at DSL Sig 147 16/08/2016 at 22:07 #84120 | |
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Steamer
3922 posts |
I've just tested again, and discovered something very odd. First train in the default TT departs approx 1 minute late, and is 80m long. A 20m test train departs on time. A 300m test train departs approximately 3.5 minutes late. Bizarre as it may sound, it appears that the extra delay is down to train length. For reference, I allowed all trains 20+ minutes to reverse, so the default waiting time won't be a factor. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Red For Danger |
| Cambridge - reversing at DSL Sig 147 16/08/2016 at 22:19 #84122 | |
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headshot119
4869 posts |
" said:I've just tested again, and discovered something very odd.I agree with your findings having had a go myself. Though Cambridge is built on fairly ancient core code, it could well be an old core code, rather than a simulation issue. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Red For Danger |
| Cambridge - reversing at DSL Sig 147 21/08/2016 at 20:09 #84207 | |
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Red For Danger
169 posts |
Just found an interesting work round to this issue. If the tt is amended of the train when it is waiting at Sig 147, it will leave on time. I found by deleting and then adding back in the departure time on the tt does the trick and it departs bang on time - not sure why though....? Also noticed that Aston has the same problem with trains entering the SIM, and those reversing at Lichfield, 4 Oaks and Blake Street - all trains seem to either appear or depart at the end of the minute they are TT'd to do so resulting in a high risk of the penalty being applied. Log in to reply |