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2Q08 14/04/2017 at 08:04 #94479
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2Q08 comes from Radyr and reverses at Ninian Park according to the timetable. It stops in the platform to reverse back via the Leckwith Branch to Bridgend. However there is no signalled move from the platform onto the Leckwith Branch. The driver rings in wanting authority to move. Is this usual practice to do a timetabled "unsignalled" move? If it is then this should not happen in rhe real world. If there is no signalled move, the train should be reversed at a location where it can be signalled to do such a move, where it gains security of the interlocking to do the move and not rely on the Signaller to set up a route and protect the move each time.
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2Q08 14/04/2017 at 09:28 #94480
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Giantray in post 94479 said:
2Q08 comes from Radyr and reverses at Ninian Park according to the timetable. It stops in the platform to reverse back via the Leckwith Branch to Bridgend. However there is no signalled move from the platform onto the Leckwith Branch. The driver rings in wanting authority to move. Is this usual practice to do a timetabled "unsignalled" move? If it is then this should not happen in rhe real world. If there is no signalled move, the train should be reversed at a location where it can be signalled to do such a move, where it gains security of the interlocking to do the move and not rely on the Signaller to set up a route and protect the move each time.
Don't know whether it is the same problem but 2Q08 was last discussed here.

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2Q08 14/04/2017 at 10:43 #94481
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postal in post 94480 said:

Don't know whether it is the same problem but 2Q08 was last discussed here.
Different Issue Entirely.

Giantray in post 94479 said:
2Q08 comes from Radyr and reverses at Ninian Park according to the timetable. It stops in the platform to reverse back via the Leckwith Branch to Bridgend. However there is no signalled move from the platform onto the Leckwith Branch. The driver rings in wanting authority to move. Is this usual practice to do a timetabled "unsignalled" move? If it is then this should not happen in rhe real world. If there is no signalled move, the train should be reversed at a location where it can be signalled to do such a move, where it gains security of the interlocking to do the move and not rely on the Signaller to set up a route and protect the move each time.
There was some resignalling work at Ninian Park a couple of years ago; one of the first phases of migrating control from Cardiff Panel to South Wales ROC. As such, the sim isn't quite an accurate match for the timetable period. There are now Main Aspect signals at both ends of both platforms at Ninian Park, which weren't there in the days Cardiff Panel controlled Ninian Park.

Suggested TT fix; as I agree with your sentiment that a manually set route seems very unlikely. Suggested timetable fix would see 2Q08 reverse behind C320 on the Treforest Single.

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2Q08 14/04/2017 at 15:13 #94486
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Thank You JamesN, that explains it. I have already done what you have said about re-timetabling the train.
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