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VR292 inactive in Cardiff Valleys SO 03 09 2016 0000 (as happened) 18/04/2017 at 16:42 #94565
Afterbrunel
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In Cardiff Valleys SO 03 09 2016 0000 (as happened), at 10:30 there is a unit changeover at Pontypridd. 2J06 arrives at 10:29 (unspecified platform but it must be platform 2 because of 2T14). 2J10 arrives in platform 2 (double berthed) at 10:31.

2J10 forms 2M18 and returns northward at 10:34 but VR292 will not clear because "subroute locked in opposite direction". At this stage 2M18 is shown as an Up train, "exp 10:36". Even waiting until 10:37 (and artificially keeping other trains clear, and not clearing the signal for 2Z04 southwards) VR292 will not clear.

(You have to restore VR 495 manually.)

If you allow 2Z04 to leave, and keep all other trains clear, VR292 will still not clear, "subroute locked in other direction".

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VR292 inactive in Cardiff Valleys SO 03 09 2016 0000 (as happened) 18/04/2017 at 16:59 #94566
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Afterbrunel in post 94565 said:
In Cardiff Valleys SO 03 09 2016 0000 (as happened), at 10:30 there is a unit changeover at Pontypridd. 2J06 arrives at 10:29 (unspecified platform but it must be platform 2 because of 2T14). 2J10 arrives in platform 2 (double berthed) at 10:31.

2J10 forms 2M18 and returns northward at 10:34 but VR292 will not clear because "subroute locked in opposite direction". At this stage 2M18 is shown as an Up train, "exp 10:36". Even waiting until 10:37 (and artificially keeping other trains clear, and not clearing the signal for 2Z04 southwards) VR292 will not clear.

(You have to restore VR 495 manually.)

If you allow 2Z04 to leave, and keep all other trains clear, VR292 will still not clear, "subroute locked in other direction".
Are you able to provide a save game. This may help those who can help/advise what the problem is.

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VR292 inactive in Cardiff Valleys SO 03 09 2016 0000 (as happened) 18/04/2017 at 17:11 #94567
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It sounds like there's an error in the stopping position of 2J06- it's heading right up to VR292. When 2J10 enters the same platform, it's having to stop with the back end overhanging VR292. This is what's causing the 'route locked in opposite direction' message- the track circuit ahead of VR292 is still occupied with a route set in the Up direction. To fix, either allow 2M18 to leave when it phones for permission to move (remember to set points first!) or use F2 Train Options to reverse the train- it will shunt back along the platform if 2Z04 has left or has also been shunted to the south end. It should reverse back northbound automatically and you'll be able to set the route from VR292.

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Last edited: 18/04/2017 at 17:12 by Steamer
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VR292 inactive in Cardiff Valleys SO 03 09 2016 0000 (as happened) 18/04/2017 at 17:22 #94568
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Mod Note - The issue raised is not to do with the tickets raised in this post

Is this related to the bug I raised regarding the route-locking not dropping mantis 17035 and 17036)?


Kev

Last edited: 18/04/2017 at 17:51 by headshot119
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VR292 inactive in Cardiff Valleys SO 03 09 2016 0000 (as happened) 18/04/2017 at 17:31 #94570
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Just out of interest what is the platform length of P2 at Pontypridd (between signals VR292 and VR497), Cannot find information in wiki on this.
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VR292 inactive in Cardiff Valleys SO 03 09 2016 0000 (as happened) 18/04/2017 at 17:51 #94571
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KymriskaDraken in post 94568 said:
Is this related to the bug I raised regarding the route-locking not dropping mantis 17035 and 17036)?


Kev
Nothing at all to do with it.

"Platform 7 your Penarth service. Platform 6 your Treherbert!"
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VR292 inactive in Cardiff Valleys SO 03 09 2016 0000 (as happened) 18/04/2017 at 19:37 #94576
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Thank you, Steamer is correct. As the timetable was written 2J06 runs right up to the platform starting signal, and the southbound train is unable to berth inside it. Consequently VR292 won't clear.

I edited the timetable for 2J06 to stop at the near end of the platform, and everything works ok. Thanks to all who responded.

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