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| Chaos (or is it?) at about 08.25 31/05/2017 at 23:16 #95543 | |
bugsy
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I’m playing the 2003 Loader version of the Peterborough sim. It’s about 08.26 and I’ve had what you might call a bit of bad luck. There has been a Track Circuit failure on the Down Fast just after signal 423 on the approach to the station. Unfortunately, this occurred whilst the route was still set and just after 1N02 had left the DF and entered platform 4 before continuing its journey to Grantham via the down slow, presumably to allow 1D23 to overtake it on the Down Fast. The only routes north are now via platforms 2 and 3. You can now see in the screen shot attached that chaos is about to rule. (See appropriately named attachment) I wouldn’t be surprised if this sort of thing has happened in reality. Has it? I wonder how things would pan out. In case anyone would care to have a go at sorting this mess out, I have attached a saved game. If anyone does manage to get things back to normal, perhaps they would let me know how long it took! Probably not too much of a problem for experienced railway men no doubt? Have fun. Bugsy  Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Log in to reply |
| Chaos (or is it?) at about 08.25 01/06/2017 at 12:28 #95546 | |
Late Turn
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From the Down Fast to platform 4, and north from there, is still available, but requires talking past two signals at danger. Far from ideal, but enough to keep the job moving in the short term. Is there a signalled route available to platforms 2 and 3? If not (I don't know without checking, but it doesn't look like there is), that doesn't seem like a workable option really, as it'd constitute a wrong direction movement along either the Up Slow or the Up Fast. In the medium term, a release of controls by the S&T (briefly 'clearly' the track circuit in the relay room) would let the route drop out so that at least the points can be individually controlled to allow different routes to be set up whilst they worked on the fault itself. Alternatively, someone might come out to start manually winding points, but that'd be a very disruptive option in this situation (as it takes so long to set up for each movement) compared to just running everything through platform 4! Log in to reply |
| Chaos (or is it?) at about 08.25 01/06/2017 at 12:59 #95547 | |
BarryM
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I think that is easy Bugsy. Seeing it is not a points failure, if you know the Signal electrician, get that person to reduce the overlap on track circuit T7515. If you don't,you can still have Down services use P4 via the TCF. I think you may have to get 1M08 on the Whittlesea to set back behind signal 793. to free up P5. I think they had Signal electricians in 2003? Have fun! Barry E&OE Oh! Late Turn beat me to it! Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Last edited: 01/06/2017 at 13:03 by BarryM Reason: Late turn Log in to reply |
| Chaos (or is it?) at about 08.25 01/06/2017 at 14:35 #95550 | |
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bugsy
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Late Turn in post 95546 said:I know that setting a route for passenger trains via shunt signals shouldn't be done unless abosolutely necessary. If it were to be allowed in this situation, then north-bound trains could be diverted through either platform 2 or 3. Would it Be? BarryM in post 95547 said: I think you may have to get 1M08 on the Whittlesea to set back behind signal 793. to free up P5.If I reverse reverse 1M08, wil it stop at signal 793 or carry on going? What would happen with regards to the approaching 4M21? And presumably 1L76 would have to be cancelled. Everything that you make will be useful - providing it's made of chocolate. Last edited: 01/06/2017 at 14:36 by bugsy Reason: additional information Log in to reply |
| Chaos (or is it?) at about 08.25 01/06/2017 at 14:46 #95551 | |
Steamer
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bugsy in post 95550 said:Late Turn in post 95546 said:You can't set a route from 417 to 63 or 67 anyway- there's no subsidiary aspect on 417.I know that setting a route for passenger trains via shunt signals shouldn't be done unless abosolutely necessary. If it were to be allowed in this situation, then north-bound trains could be diverted through either platform 2 or 3. Would it Be? Quote: If I reverse reverse 1M08, wil it stop at signal 793 or carry on going?It will carry on going until you reverse it again via F2, and in any case wouldn't be a permitted movement. Quote: What would happen with regards to the approaching 4M21?If it's approaching from Whittlesea- in the best case scenario, the driver will require a new pair of underpants on arrival at Peterborough... Quote: And presumably 1L76 would have to be cancelled.If you were feeling ambitious, you could shunt it behind P92 at New England, and run it back into P5 and onto Whittlesea once 1M08 has cleared. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Last edited: 01/06/2017 at 14:46 by Steamer Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Chaos (or is it?) at about 08.25 01/06/2017 at 15:23 #95552 | |
HST125Scorton
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I did things a little different. 1L76 set back to GF 76 towards 176 then reversed back to Whittlesea via the Goods Loop letting 1M08 into P5. 1D23 PSAD on both reds via P4 back onto DF cleared the overlap on track circuit T7515, 1M08 sent behind.. As for 2K09 once a clear section PSAD routed into P4 to form it's next service back to Spalding 2K41. I just about had a normal service from 0930ish.. still was some delays but managed although the TCF into P4 as still there. Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Log in to reply |
| Chaos (or is it?) at about 08.25 01/06/2017 at 21:11 #95560 | |
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clive
2738 posts |
bugsy in post 95550 said:Late Turn in post 95546 said:No. That crossover is purely for getting stuff from the Ups into Fletton Flyash.I know that setting a route for passenger trains via shunt signals shouldn't be done unless abosolutely necessary. If it were to be allowed in this situation, then north-bound trains could be diverted through either platform 2 or 3. Would it Be? Log in to reply |
| Chaos (or is it?) at about 08.25 01/06/2017 at 21:25 #95561 | |
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HST125Scorton
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Even better result.. TCF Cleared by 9am.. Doing the same method as before that I mentioned. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Log in to reply |