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Not able to call the Mossend Yard Control to request reset 08/10/2018 at 00:08 #112533
stighetl
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Evening!

I'm currently playing the 1980 timetable, and I want to send 8D37 to DR2. Shunt signal M311 hasn't been restored. In the wiki it says I can phone the Mossend Yard Control to request a reset of the signal, but it's not possible. I can call the control, but I can't ask them to reset the signal.



Am I doing something wrong, or is it a bug?

Thank you!

- Stig

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Last edited: 08/10/2018 at 00:11 by stighetl
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Not able to call the Mossend Yard Control to request reset 08/10/2018 at 06:59 #112535
Peter Bennet
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Someone else had a similar problem which I could not fathom out.
Can you open up a save (convert file .ssg to .zip) and let me know what state "LSMY311" and "RMY311AS" and "SMY311" are reported as having? There will be a block of data relating to them.

Peter

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Not able to call the Mossend Yard Control to request reset 08/10/2018 at 12:06 #112539
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It was me that raised this issue up around a month back. I've yet to work out what is happening but I can confirm this isn't any options to choose from when you've rang Mossend Control Up in any era. It seems to options may have gone walkabouts since the new update??

https://www.simsig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/49082

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Not able to call the Mossend Yard Control to request reset 08/10/2018 at 23:02 #112545
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After some testing I belive I have found the reason for the option not showing.

In the first set of tests was able to get M(Y)311 to clear and after a short while called mossend and the option to switch M311 was present.

In the second set of tests got M(Y)311 to clear but I then attempted to cancel the signal myself, then called Mossend and low and behold the option was not there.

It would appear that if the user attempts to cancel the route into the yard, then calling Mossend results in the phone option not being present.

This has been the only scenario I have found the reported situations to occur.

Reported on Mantis #0021762

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Last edited: 09/10/2018 at 00:45 by MarkC
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Not able to call the Mossend Yard Control to request reset 09/10/2018 at 06:49 #112547
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Are you able to give me the information I requested above?

Peter

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Not able to call the Mossend Yard Control to request reset 09/10/2018 at 12:52 #112551
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Peter Bennet in post 112547 said:
Are you able to give me the information I requested above?

Peter
Peter I have uploaded the files to mantis.

User cancelled route for M311 (extract from save files)

<TROU ID="RMY311AS"/>


<TSIG ID="SMY311">
<eVar1 ID="SMY311:eVAR1"/>
<eVar2 ID="SMY311:eVAR2"/>
<eVar3 ID="SMY311:eVAR3"/>
<eVar4 ID="SMY311:eVAR4"/>
<FOAL>-1</FOAL>
<Stick>-1</Stick>
<BPull>-1</BPull>
<OffExceptBPull>-1</OffExceptBPull>
<RouteALT>30</RouteALT>
<SightingDistance>300</SightingDistance>
<NextSignal>SMY352X</NextSignal>
</TSIG>


Non user cancel of route

<TROU ID="RMY311AS">
<Set>-1</Set>
<Proved>-1</Proved>
</TROU>

<TSIG ID="SMY311">
<eVar1 ID="SMY311:eVAR1"/>
<eVar2 ID="SMY311:eVAR2"/>
<eVar3 ID="SMY311:eVAR3"/>
<eVar4 ID="SMY311:eVAR4"/>
<AscOn>-1</AscOn>
<Aspect>1</Aspect>
<Stick>-1</Stick>
<CurrentRouteSet>RMY311AS</CurrentRouteSet>
<OffExceptBPull>-1</OffExceptBPull>
<RouteALT>30</RouteALT>
<SightingDistance>300</SightingDistance>
<NextSignal>SMY352X</NextSignal>
</TSIG>



These two states are the only difference between the two saves that I have found

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Not able to call the Mossend Yard Control to request reset 09/10/2018 at 14:03 #112552
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MarkC in post 112545 said:
In the second set of tests got M(Y)311 to clear but I then attempted to cancel the signal myself, then called Mossend and low and behold the option was not there.

It would appear that if the user attempts to cancel the route into the yard, then calling Mossend results in the phone option not being present.
I can't remember right now, but I might have canceled the signal myself (Signal M321 to M311) earlier in the game.

Peter Bennet in post 112535 said:

Can you open up a save (convert file .ssg to .zip) and let me know what state "LSMY311" and "RMY311AS" and "SMY311" are reported as having? There will be a block of data relating to them.
I hope MarkC has provided the information you asked for. I have some trouble navigating the SavedSimulation.xml file.

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Not able to call the Mossend Yard Control to request reset 09/10/2018 at 14:23 #112553
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I should point out that the attempt to cancel I refer to is attempting to cancel signal M311 itself (right clicking signal M311 and selecting Cancel route), not any route up to it so cancelling the route from Signal M321 to M311, from what I have tested has not caused it.

I found it by testing a fair bit and having no luck, I went off and made myself a cuppa came back and with out thinking attempted to cancel signal M311 by right clicking it and selecting cancel route, signal did not revert back to red and I remembered that a phone call was needed so I went to do that and I found the option needed was no longer there I have been able to recreate this everytime thus far, and I should point out that same happens to signal M309 aswell

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Not able to call the Mossend Yard Control to request reset 09/10/2018 at 15:11 #112554
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Looking at MarkC's data, in the second one the route clearly hasn't been cancelled.
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Not able to call the Mossend Yard Control to request reset 09/10/2018 at 15:30 #112555
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clive in post 112554 said:
Looking at MarkC's data, in the second one the route clearly hasn't been cancelled.
The second set is where the option is displayed to the user in the place call window request/message dropdown "Please Switch signal M311"

The first set is where that request/message option is NOT displayed to the user.

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Last edited: 09/10/2018 at 15:33 by MarkC
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