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Hereford FAQ 08/11/2018 at 11:55 #113185
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Phil-jmw in post 113183 said:
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Is it supposed to be the case that you can't shunt in the Hereford area? I was trying to shunt a train to H2 and back but alas no good?
Shouldn't have any problems after pressing check for updates in your loader :)
Using the latest sim version 1.0 build 6 after checking for updates this morning and starting a new sim I am unable to call a route from H34 GPL Sig on the Down Main. It doesn't even flash to try and initiate calling a route. I was hoping to set a route from H34 to H10 on the Up Main.
Reported Mantis #0022160.

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Hereford FAQ 08/11/2018 at 12:54 #113189
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headshot119 in post 113184 said:
Phil-jmw in post 113183 said:
headshot119 in post 113182 said:
37087 in post 113177 said:
Is it supposed to be the case that you can't shunt in the Hereford area? I was trying to shunt a train to H2 and back but alas no good?
Shouldn't have any problems after pressing check for updates in your loader :)
Using the latest sim version 1.0 build 6 after checking for updates this morning and starting a new sim I am unable to call a route from H34 GPL Sig on the Down Main. It doesn't even flash to try and initiate calling a route. I was hoping to set a route from H34 to H10 on the Up Main.
That isn't a signaled move in the era simulated. You need to use Brecon Curve GF, and talk the driver by.
In this era then H34 is effectively a LOS only, but previously it was possible to set routes from H34?

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Hereford FAQ 08/11/2018 at 14:42 #113194
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I've not seen any posts regarding this yet, but occasionally I don't get the Up/Down Train Approaching indication. It's previously happened on the Up at Bromfield, the Down at Tram Inn, and now I've caught it on the Up at Tram Inn. I've attached a save.


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Phil.

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Hereford FAQ 08/11/2018 at 15:48 #113196
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Phil-jmw in post 113194 said:
I've not seen any posts regarding this yet, but occasionally I don't get the Up/Down Train Approaching indication. It's previously happened on the Up at Bromfield, the Down at Tram Inn, and now I've caught it on the Up at Tram Inn. I've attached a save.


Regards,

Phil.
Did the annunciatior definitely not go off, as opposed to just silencing when 2B01 hit the berth track?

Phil-jmw in post 113189 said:
headshot119 in post 113184 said:
Phil-jmw in post 113183 said:
headshot119 in post 113182 said:
37087 in post 113177 said:
Is it supposed to be the case that you can't shunt in the Hereford area? I was trying to shunt a train to H2 and back but alas no good?
Shouldn't have any problems after pressing check for updates in your loader :)
Using the latest sim version 1.0 build 6 after checking for updates this morning and starting a new sim I am unable to call a route from H34 GPL Sig on the Down Main. It doesn't even flash to try and initiate calling a route. I was hoping to set a route from H34 to H10 on the Up Main.
That isn't a signaled move in the era simulated. You need to use Brecon Curve GF, and talk the driver by.
In this era then H34 is effectively a LOS only, but previously it was possible to set routes from H34?
There was once a little siding which was what H34 was for, in effect it's an LOS in the simulation era, though possible to talk passed it for the ground frame.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Hereford FAQ 08/11/2018 at 18:45 #113202
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headshot119 in post 113196 said:
Phil-jmw in post 113194 said:
I've not seen any posts regarding this yet, but occasionally I don't get the Up/Down Train Approaching indication. It's previously happened on the Up at Bromfield, the Down at Tram Inn, and now I've caught it on the Up at Tram Inn. I've attached a save.


Regards,

Phil.
Did the annunciatior definitely not go off, as opposed to just silencing when 2B01 hit the berth track?

Phil-jmw in post 113189 said:
headshot119 in post 113184 said:
Phil-jmw in post 113183 said:
headshot119 in post 113182 said:
37087 in post 113177 said:
Is it supposed to be the case that you can't shunt in the Hereford area? I was trying to shunt a train to H2 and back but alas no good?
Shouldn't have any problems after pressing check for updates in your loader :)
Using the latest sim version 1.0 build 6 after checking for updates this morning and starting a new sim I am unable to call a route from H34 GPL Sig on the Down Main. It doesn't even flash to try and initiate calling a route. I was hoping to set a route from H34 to H10 on the Up Main.
That isn't a signaled move in the era simulated. You need to use Brecon Curve GF, and talk the driver by.
In this era then H34 is effectively a LOS only, but previously it was possible to set routes from H34?
There was once a little siding which was what H34 was for, in effect it's an LOS in the simulation era, though possible to talk passed it for the ground frame.
Thanks for explaining the history surrounding H34 Sig Karl. Re the train approaching indications, I wasn't aware they cancelled when the berth tracks became occupied but now you mention it I'll try to recreate it and see what happens. It may be that I'd just taken my eye off the ball then.

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Hereford FAQ 15/11/2018 at 19:31 #113321
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A strange thing happened to me last night: I had a train enter at Ledbury and the Ledbury signaller requested the slot. I accepted, but immediately there was a message saying the train had had an ACOA at a Ledbury signal. The train then proceeded to Shelwick Jn as normal after phoning Control.

No other trains about and the block for the Ledbury line was normal before it happened; but this was the second of two successive trains through the block in the same direction. Unfortunately I didn't think to take notes when it happened.

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Hereford FAQ 15/11/2018 at 19:55 #113326
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I will do some investigating.
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Hereford FAQ 31/07/2019 at 22:19 #119782
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Forest Pines in post 113321 said:
A strange thing happened to me last night: I had a train enter at Ledbury and the Ledbury signaller requested the slot. I accepted, but immediately there was a message saying the train had had an ACOA at a Ledbury signal. The train then proceeded to Shelwick Jn as normal after phoning Control.

No other trains about and the block for the Ledbury line was normal before it happened; but this was the second of two successive trains through the block in the same direction. Unfortunately I didn't think to take notes when it happened.
Have just experienced this in V1.1 of the Sim

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Hereford FAQ 03/04/2020 at 12:33 #125332
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I can't work out if I have a bug or I'm missing something but I can't signal any trains to stop short in the down direction on either the Down Relief (H60 to the arrow short of H51) or Platform 2 (H58 to the arrow short of H57) so that the overlap doesn't lock the south end of the station. When I try and signal either of these, I get the message "Route not available". Please note that I can signal a train from H58 to the arrow on Platform 1 without any issues.

I'm running version 1.1 and only seems to affect these two locations.


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Hereford FAQ 03/04/2020 at 12:44 #125333
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You should only use the shunt exit arrows for shunt moves and call-ons. Normal arrivals should be signalled on main aspects. Off the top of my head, there are few if any moves in the supplied timetable that would require the shunt arrows.

The routes that give a 'not available' message likely require the platform to be occupied before the route can be set. Whether the different behaviour is correct for different lines is one for the developer.

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Hereford FAQ 18/02/2021 at 22:26 #137344
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Just a small spelling error, apologies if has been reported elsewhere.
When getting a message about a track section failure in the Leominster area, I noticed the message spelled it as LEOMISNTER


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Hereford FAQ 19/02/2021 at 00:07 #137345
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Thanks, that one has never been spotted before, Mantis 33085 raised to get it fixed. It'll be included in the next update of the simulation.
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Hereford FAQ 19/02/2021 at 11:02 #137346
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Another speeling mistook is in the six locations at Abergavenny other than the station (e.g Up Sidings, Down Siding, UGL etc.)

It should have two 'n's not one. Screenshot attached.


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Hereford FAQ 19/02/2021 at 14:14 #137347
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Thanks, I've added them to 33085.
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Hereford FAQ 24/02/2021 at 14:34 #137436
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Hi,

In the token instrument in Pantyfffynnon box, the label says "Llaneilo" - is that a deliberate misspelling?

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Hereford FAQ 24/02/2021 at 14:52 #137437
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9pN1SEAp in post 137436 said:
Hi,

In the token instrument in Pantyfffynnon box, the label says "Llaneilo" - is that a deliberate misspelling?

Thanks
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There's an open ticket 33085 to correct some minor typos.

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Hereford FAQ 24/02/2021 at 15:02 #137438
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Spotted a small mistake while playing Hereford today:

Crossing 273 on the HoW is Cilyrychen (so spelling is slightly wrong) but more importantly it is an ABCL (crosses the main A483 road) not a UWC.

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Hereford FAQ 24/02/2021 at 15:32 #137439
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Looking at the area, I also see a crossing that does not appear to be depicted at all: https://www.google.nl/maps/@51.8107443,-4.0005815,3a,52.7y,261.25h,89.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMVEQnnq2jcRIFInX6JGrmQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=nl
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Hereford FAQ 24/02/2021 at 17:30 #137440
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Yes you're right, between Llandybie and Ammanford there is an AOCL called Brynmarlais (at 12m 28ch) which is indeed missing from the sim.
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Hereford FAQ 24/02/2021 at 18:01 #137444
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Albert in post 137439 said:
Looking at the area, I also see a crossing that does not appear to be depicted at all: Snipped Link
NicholasN in post 137440 said:
Yes you're right, between Llandybie and Ammanford there is an AOCL called Brynmarlais (at 12m 28ch) which is indeed missing from the sim.
Brynmarlais AOCL doesn't have a direct telephone line to Pantyffynnon according to the sectional appendix diagram I used at the time the simulation was written, or the concentrator schematic, hence it hasn't been included in the sim. If I'd included every crossing along the HOWL without a phone, we'd have around another 200 crossings. If there hadn't already been so many crossings it might have been included just as a label, but not on this occasion.

NicholasN in post 137438 said:
Spotted a small mistake while playing Hereford today:

Crossing 273 on the HoW is Cilyrychen (so spelling is slightly wrong) but more importantly it is an ABCL (crosses the main A483 road) not a UWC.

Cheers.
I agree the spelling is wrong, so I've added that to 33085 to correct. As for the type of crossing NESA has it now as an ABCL. The original table A digram I used when making the sim has an AOCL marked, and a "cattle creep", with the cattle creep having the phones. I don't know if you're local to the area? If you are was that ever the case or was it a mistake in the SA.

Google Maps Streetview is too modern, though there doesn't look like there was much room for a cattle creep, but what I have in my head from the SA diagram is something like Whitbeck on the Cumbrian Coast.

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Hereford FAQ 24/02/2021 at 18:35 #137446
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headshot119 in post 137444 said:

Brynmarlais AOCL doesn't have a direct telephone line to Pantyffynnon according to the sectional appendix diagram I used at the time the simulation was written, or the concentrator schematic, hence it hasn't been included in the sim. If I'd included every crossing along the HOWL without a phone, we'd have around another 200 crossings. If there hadn't already been so many crossings it might have been included just as a label, but not on this occasion.
That's fair enough, there are certainly plenty enough crossings depicted as it is! A deliberate choice to leave those without phones off is probably very wise. And as a locally monitored crossing it doesn't particularly need a phone so I would guess that the SA is correct.


headshot119 in post 137444 said:

I agree the spelling is wrong, so I've added that to 33085 to correct. As for the type of crossing NESA has it now as an ABCL. The original table A digram I used when making the sim has an AOCL marked, and a "cattle creep", with the cattle creep having the phones. I don't know if you're local to the area? If you are was that ever the case or was it a mistake in the SA.
I have driven across the crossing (up to a few years ago) regularly and do not recall it NOT being an ABCL, but that goes back to about, hmm, 2005 or so. Before then it is possible it may have been an AOCL at some point, but being on the A483 it surely can't have been like that in this century, anyway. I also can't recall if there was or wasn't a cattle creep associated but I expect there is/was, it being a main road.

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Hereford FAQ 26/04/2021 at 16:49 #139093
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Is it correct that Hereford H60 is approach controlled??
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Hereford FAQ 26/04/2021 at 16:58 #139095
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Yes, it's always subject to approach release from red for the down relief, and is approach release from red to the down main unless H58 is off.
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Hereford FAQ 22/07/2021 at 20:45 #140696
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Evening All,

I'm working on a timetable for Hereford based on the spring of 1992, with the help of a few WTTs and documents, as well as my step dad, a local to the area. I've come across a slight hick up as timetabled there is a train to Glascoed (off Little Mill Junction) and back from Newport (from Crewe before on the Marches). I can timetable the train to Glascoed but I can't coming back as it isn't finding a path from the entrance to Little Mill Junction, and I think the suggested paths are more shunting moves. I understand the timetable I'm making is slightly before the era the sim was designed for, but I'm unsure why a move can be made there but not back. I've had a look about the forum too and can't see a mention of the problem.

Any help would be gratefully received.

Many Thanks, Trainzy :)


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Hereford FAQ 22/07/2021 at 21:11 #140697
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That train never normallu ran to ADJ apparently. Instead it ran round at Panteg, having stopped at Pontypool to collect a travelling shunter.
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