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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 01/01/2019 at 12:10 #114514
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TimTamToe in post 114512 said:
Meld in post 114463 said:
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BTW the TT department is still in the dark as much as you lot are
Until March the 22nd when you get asked for 5 tt's for the next day....
If I'm lucky I get 2 days notice

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 01/01/2019 at 12:11 #114515
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Meld in post 114514 said:
TimTamToe in post 114512 said:
Meld in post 114463 said:
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BTW the TT department is still in the dark as much as you lot are
Until March the 22nd when you get asked for 5 tt's for the next day....
If I'm lucky I get 2 days notice ;)
Oi, Next time I give you a sim to timetable, You'll be lucky to get 5 mins notice

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 01/01/2019 at 12:12 #114516
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pedroathome in post 114515 said:
Meld in post 114514 said:
TimTamToe in post 114512 said:
Meld in post 114463 said:
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BTW the TT department is still in the dark as much as you lot are
Until March the 22nd when you get asked for 5 tt's for the next day....
If I'm lucky I get 2 days notice ;)
Oi, Next time I give you a sim to timetable, You'll be lucky to get 5 mins notice
Yeah but then you need 3 hours to fix all the issues that arise from the first import

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 01/01/2019 at 13:26 #114517
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headshot119 in post 114391 said:
The development team are pleased to announce that at least one brand new simulation will be previewed at the March 2019 meet. We reckon you will love this simulation.

This thread is purely for speculation over what the simulation may be.
Oh well !! Let's hope it is a rebuild of Southampton with lines up to Dorchester, Weymouth, Romsey, Basingstoke, Eastliegh and as far as up to Cosham junction area.

Or even better... Salisbury to Honiton !!!

Nah !!! ... probably London to China freight !!!

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 01/01/2019 at 14:17 #114520
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TimTamToe in post 114511 said:
The rumour I'd heard was a special sim for Mr Gallon, the heritage Royal Mail underground line in London ;)

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Never had a ride on it (not even now it is a tourist attraction) but I've been on the platforms at London WDO (Rathbone Place) and Mount Pleasant.

After the system was mothballed there was a video on line produced by a team of subterranean explorers who unofficially accessed various underground passages and caverns below London. The video documents how they climbed up to the roof of Paddington sorting office on a Sunday, down through the building to the basement while dodging the weekend security staff then walked the whole system to Whitechapel. Unfortunately the video now seems to have been hidden ( I hesitate to say "gone underground"). The system was kept on a care and maintenance basis and the old station platforms were still lit and accessible from the parent office if that office still existed when I left the business in 2007.

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 01/01/2019 at 14:50 #114522
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I was lucky enough to visit and have a walk through of some of the tunnels at Mount Pleasant on a Postal Museum guided tour whilst they were preparing to transfer it to the museum. I've got some photos of the tour somewhere, I should put them online...
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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 02/01/2019 at 18:18 #114540
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I would love a sim of the post office railway, which I worked on in the early 1970s
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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 19/01/2019 at 08:56 #114870
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Crewe or Reading new layout would be fantastic.
Big junctions and chaining oportunities too...
Fingers Crossed

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 19/01/2019 at 15:37 #114889
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axmh in post 114517 said:
[quote=headshot119;post=114391]Or even better... Salisbury to Honiton !!!

There was once a piece of software distributed for doing mockups of SimSig layouts. I can't get it to work nowadays so I can't correct this effort but I used the photos of Basingstoke ASC (Salisbury to Exeter) - https://photos.signalling.org/index?/category/31-west_of_england_panel - to produce the attached.

I did also try and do a Poole to Wool mockup and still have that also.

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 19/01/2019 at 16:02 #114891
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DaveHarries in post 114889 said:
axmh in post 114517 said:
[quote=headshot119;post=114391]Or even better... Salisbury to Honiton !!!

There was once a piece of software distributed for doing mockups of SimSig layouts. I can't get it to work nowadays so I can't correct this effort but I used the photos of Basingstoke ASC (Salisbury to Exeter) - https://photos.signalling.org/index?/category/31-west_of_england_panel - to produce the attached.

I did also try and do a Poole to Wool mockup and still have that also.

Dave

What software was it called?

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 19/01/2019 at 16:38 #114893
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ajax103 in post 114891 said:
DaveHarries in post 114889 said:
axmh in post 114517 said:
[quote=headshot119;post=114391]Or even better... Salisbury to Honiton !!!

There was once a piece of software distributed for doing mockups of SimSig layouts. I can't get it to work nowadays so I can't correct this effort but I used the photos of Basingstoke ASC (Salisbury to Exeter) - https://photos.signalling.org/index?/category/31-west_of_england_panel - to produce the attached.

I did also try and do a Poole to Wool mockup and still have that also.

Dave

What software was it called?
S-box Track and Signals Editor. It was a good interface. The files for it were never uploaded onto this site but it was great fun to use.

What I did was to draw the layout on S-box, then do the colours on MS Paint by screen grabbing part of a SimSig layout and extracting the colours from the screen grab.

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 19/01/2019 at 18:35 #114902
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DaveHarries in post 114893 said:
ajax103 in post 114891 said:
DaveHarries in post 114889 said:
axmh in post 114517 said:
[quote=headshot119;post=114391]Or even better... Salisbury to Honiton !!!

There was once a piece of software distributed for doing mockups of SimSig layouts. I can't get it to work nowadays so I can't correct this effort but I used the photos of Basingstoke ASC (Salisbury to Exeter) - https://photos.signalling.org/index?/category/31-west_of_england_panel - to produce the attached.

I did also try and do a Poole to Wool mockup and still have that also.

Dave

What software was it called?
S-box Track and Signals Editor. It was a good interface. The files for it were never uploaded onto this site but it was great fun to use.

What I did was to draw the layout on S-box, then do the colours on MS Paint by screen grabbing part of a SimSig layout and extracting the colours from the screen grab.

Dave
Sounds complicated!

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 02/02/2019 at 13:51 #115268
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Another sim possibility I might hazard a guess at, albeit probably wrongly, for the Birmingham meet (even though I will be in Devon that weekend) would be Cambridge as a loader sim to chain with West Anglia. There would be an updated layout of the Cambridge area to incorporate Cambridge North and perhaps also the Breckland line (ie. the route through Attleborough, Shippea Hill, etc.) as I believe it is called and which is, I believe, now controlled from Cambridge.

More likely to be either Crewe or Doncaster PSB than an updated Cambridge though I suspect.

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 02/02/2019 at 14:15 #115269
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DaveHarries in post 115268 said:
Another sim possibility I might hazard a guess at, albeit probably wrongly, for the Birmingham meet (even though I will be in Devon that weekend) would be Cambridge as a loader sim to chain with West Anglia. There would be an updated layout of the Cambridge area to incorporate Cambridge North and perhaps also the Breckland line (ie. the route through Attleborough, Shippea Hill, etc.) as I believe it is called and which is, I believe, now controlled from Cambridge.

More likely to be either Crewe or Doncaster PSB than an updated Cambridge though I suspect.

Dave
Any of the above sims would be excellent, although my most eagerly awaited sim is a Doncaster one. It would be awesome, with loads of passenger and freight trains to deal with.

And just think of the chaining possabilities King's Cross, Peterbprough, York and Tyneside! (Newcastle)

My goodness, that was difficult, but I managed it.
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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 02/02/2019 at 18:43 #115276
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DaveHarries in post 115268 said:
Another sim possibility I might hazard a guess at, albeit probably wrongly, for the Birmingham meet (even though I will be in Devon that weekend) would be Cambridge as a loader sim to chain with West Anglia.
Cambridge Loader is still way down my job queue. Sorry.

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 03/02/2019 at 10:27 #115287
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As case is with a loader version of Cambridge but apart from the new layout at Cambridge itself and Cambridge North, I hope it's possible to see more of the Breckland line as signalling is now done from Cambridge although I'm not sure how far to Norwich that Cambridge actually controls?

There is another sim which could be possible and that's a updated Bristol which would take into account the possibilities of chaining to Newport plus the resignalling of Bristol Temple Meads as I understand it, the existing Bristol sim can't chain to Newport?

Doncaster would be nice but equally so would a sim to cover Tyneside to Edinburgh, another sim that could be shown is Croydon chaining with Victoria.

All that said, one wonders if it's a area not even discussed here ie Hastings as East Coastway has the possibility to chain to a future Hastings sim although it's referred to as 1066.

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 03/02/2019 at 18:20 #115300
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ajax103 in post 115287 said:
As case is with a loader version of Cambridge but apart from the new layout at Cambridge itself and Cambridge North, I hope it's possible to see more of the Breckland line as signalling is now done from Cambridge although I'm not sure how far to Norwich that Cambridge actually controls?
I think Norwich only control the junction onto the line with the rest of the line signalled from Cambridge.

Cambridge is one of my favourite sims to play with so much going on!

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 23/02/2019 at 14:44 #115923
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I'm thinking it could be either a Western region sim or a Eastern region sim both could easily chain to existing sims, neither of the ones I'm thinking about haven't yet been discussed I think.

I don't think we're looking at a Southern, Midlands or Scottish sims though as most of them are known to be in development.

I'm probably wrong in my thinking but these are the two regions I think will house this new sim.

And no I'm not a betting man before anyone says!

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 23/02/2019 at 16:58 #115926
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ajax103 in post 115923 said:
I'm thinking it could be either a Western region sim or a Eastern region sim both could easily chain to existing sims, neither of the ones I'm thinking about haven't yet been discussed I think.

I don't think we're looking at a Southern, Midlands or Scottish sims though as most of them are known to be in development.

I'm probably wrong in my thinking but these are the two regions I think will house this new sim.

And no I'm not a betting man before anyone says!

Western region would be fun (AB to Penzance anyone?) but if we looked into Midlands region then we have most of that area. We have Saltley PSB, Birmingham New Street, Coventry, Wolverhampton, Derby, Leamington Spa and Aston so only two parts are missing from the Midlands: they are Stourbridge Junction and Walsall. Walsall could also give a means to chain to Stafford(shire) through the branch at Rugeley Trent Valley. It will be interesting to see what the new sim proves to be so it is a pity that I will be in Devon that weekend.

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 23/02/2019 at 17:36 #115927
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DaveHarries in post 115926 said:
ajax103 in post 115923 said:
I'm thinking it could be either a Western region sim or a Eastern region sim both could easily chain to existing sims, neither of the ones I'm thinking about haven't yet been discussed I think.

I don't think we're looking at a Southern, Midlands or Scottish sims though as most of them are known to be in development.

I'm probably wrong in my thinking but these are the two regions I think will house this new sim.

And no I'm not a betting man before anyone says!

Western region would be fun (AB to Penzance anyone?) but if we looked into Midlands region then we have most of that area. We have Saltley PSB, Birmingham New Street, Coventry, Wolverhampton, Derby, Leamington Spa and Aston so only two parts are missing from the Midlands: they are Stourbridge Junction and Walsall. Walsall could also give a means to chain to Stafford(shire) through the branch at Rugeley Trent Valley. It will be interesting to see what the new sim proves to be so it is a pity that I will be in Devon that weekend.

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Are you not forgetting Leicester for the Midlands as that would chain with West Hampstead, Rugby North and I'm not sure but Derby too?

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 24/02/2019 at 10:40 #115933
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Crewe and Donny are the 2 that I really wait with anticipation - with the addition of Preston on its way at some point. Cant get to the meet - must do one one of these days - however, 2 kids can be demanding of time!
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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 24/02/2019 at 12:53 #115936
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ajax103 in post 115927 said:
Are you not forgetting Leicester for the Midlands as that would chain with West Hampstead, Rugby North and I'm not sure but Derby too?

Good point: I had forgotten and that would be a good size chain too.

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 24/02/2019 at 15:24 #115940
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DaveHarries in post 115936 said:
ajax103 in post 115927 said:
Are you not forgetting Leicester for the Midlands as that would chain with West Hampstead, Rugby North and I'm not sure but Derby too?

Good point: I had forgotten and that would be a good size chain too.

Dave
So would Tyneside, York, Doncaster (if and when produced), Peterborough and Kings Cross for those interested in such things.

My goodness, that was difficult, but I managed it.
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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 24/02/2019 at 17:18 #115945
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bugsy in post 115940 said:
DaveHarries in post 115936 said:
ajax103 in post 115927 said:
Are you not forgetting Leicester for the Midlands as that would chain with West Hampstead, Rugby North and I'm not sure but Derby too?

Good point: I had forgotten and that would be a good size chain too.

Dave
So would Tyneside, York, Doncaster (if and when produced), Peterborough and Kings Cross for those interested in such things.

Doncaster is one of the sims on my "want to see one day" list.

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Birmingham Meet, 23rd. March 2019 - Simulation Speculation 24/02/2019 at 18:15 #115946
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bugsy in post 115940 said:
So would Tyneside, York, Doncaster (if and when produced), Peterborough and Kings Cross for those interested in such things.
Then if the Northumberland boxes were simulated (Morpeth/Alnmouth/Tweedmouth which were not taken into Tyneside despite the IECC having provision for them because of the large number of LCs remaining on the ECML) you could chain from Aberdeen to Kings Cross.

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