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Lineside "POINTS" sign 15/03/2019 at 02:47 #116383
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Would anyone happen to know the purpose of lineside sign saying "POINTS"? I was thinking it warned of catch points but then would the sign not read "Catch points"?

It's on a former heavy rail line, now light rail line. From the lettering I think it's a pre-1960s sign, and associated with lifted track as it is rusty and in the undergrowth.

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Lineside "POINTS" sign 15/03/2019 at 12:36 #116386
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Where is this? And is there a photo?
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Lineside "POINTS" sign 18/03/2019 at 22:42 #116443
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It's at the former Old Trafford Junction (53.465257, -2.271440) on the MSJ&AR. Unfortunately no photo because it's quite difficult to capture at speed, but it is literally a rectangular sign saying "POINTS". Any paint it had has flaked away.
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Lineside "POINTS" sign 19/03/2019 at 22:30 #116459
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I recall seeing it occasionally when I was a tram driver - I've found this diagram (from the Signalling Record Society) from when it was heavy rail; no catch points are indicated (in 1969), and I can't imagine them being a later addition.

https://www.s-r-s.org.uk/pullfree.asp?FilePath=ArchiveSignals\Downloads\brmr&FileName=1969-798g.pdf

That said, using the NLS side-by-side map archives; there was a goods yard there shown in various eras and a small headshunt/arresting siding in roughly the location you pin pointed.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=18&lat=53.4649&lon=-2.2715&layers=168&right=BingHyb

There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway.
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Lineside "POINTS" sign 20/03/2019 at 01:44 #116461
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There's a cab view of the section in question here: https://youtu.be/_3aKirOKfks?t=951
It doesn't seem that the sign is visible though.

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Lineside "POINTS" sign 22/03/2019 at 20:27 #116561
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Here is a bad photo and my artist's rendition of the sign.


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Lineside "POINTS" sign 28/03/2019 at 17:26 #116867
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Is is any help?


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Lineside "POINTS" sign 28/03/2019 at 18:04 #116872
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Knowing the sign in question, it doesn't fit any of the descriptions of either catch points or points indicator I've seen in the rule book or the railsigns website - possibly a hybrid or one off creation?
There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway.
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Lineside "POINTS" sign 28/03/2019 at 22:05 #116887
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Shunters/Drivers, check the lye of the Facing Points ahead? Used in Hump Yards and Loco Depots back in the 50s.
Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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