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Norfolk Branches 13/04/2020 at 13:49 #125732
traindriver17
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Now that the resignalling of this area is complete it would be nice to possibly see a sim of this area including the sheringham line signalled from Trowse and the absolute block lines of Yarmouth and Lowestoft including the boxes of Brundall,Acle, Yarmouth, Cantley, Reedham,Reedham and Somerleyton swing bridges,Oulton Broad North and Lowestoft
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Norfolk Branches 13/04/2020 at 16:13 #125734
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Agreed
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Norfolk Branches 13/04/2020 at 17:27 #125737
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I have long hoped that we will one day see Colchester ASC as a sim. Thing is that, as with Rugby SCC, you are covering a lot of route miles. Therefore you would probably need separate sims, say:

Sim 'A' would have to cover the Norwich area which is, AFAIK, a panel in Colchester ASC.
Sim 'B' would cover the Ipswich area which is also, TMK, a panel located in Colchester ASC.
Sim 'C' to cover the Colchester, East Gate and Thorpe-le-Soken desks. These are computer workstations.
Sim 'D' to cover Brundall, Lowestoft and Yarmouth

And that would be for starters. However if Cambridge got updated there might be some means of covering the Breckland Line (Ely - Norwich). Anyway we will see. I would be keen on A, B and C for starters.

Dave

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Norfolk Branches 13/04/2020 at 20:04 #125743
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DaveHarries in post 125737 said:
I have long hoped that we will one day see Colchester ASC as a sim. Thing is that, as with Rugby SCC, you are covering a lot of route miles. Therefore you would probably need separate sims, say:

Sim 'A' would have to cover the Norwich area which is, AFAIK, a panel in Colchester ASC.
Sim 'B' would cover the Ipswich area which is also, TMK, a panel located in Colchester ASC.
Sim 'C' to cover the Colchester, East Gate and Thorpe-le-Soken desks. These are computer workstations.
Sim 'D' to cover Brundall, Lowestoft and Yarmouth

And that would be for starters. However if Cambridge got updated there might be some means of covering the Breckland Line (Ely - Norwich). Anyway we will see. I would be keen on A, B and C for starters.

Dave
I take the opposite view, we already have Liverpool Street and West Anglia so I rather see a Great Eastern sim that chains with Liverpool Street IMO.

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Norfolk Branches 13/04/2020 at 20:15 #125745
clive
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DaveHarries in post 125737 said:
I have long hoped that we will one day see Colchester ASC as a sim. Thing is that, as with Rugby SCC, you are covering a lot of route miles. Therefore you would probably need separate sims
Route mileage doesn't make a sim too large to handle. It's the complexity - number of routes, amount of pointwork, and so on - that matters.

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Norfolk Branches 13/04/2020 at 20:36 #125747
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clive in post 125745 said:
DaveHarries in post 125737 said:
I have long hoped that we will one day see Colchester ASC as a sim. Thing is that, as with Rugby SCC, you are covering a lot of route miles. Therefore you would probably need separate sims
Route mileage doesn't make a sim too large to handle. It's the complexity - number of routes, amount of pointwork, and so on - that matters.
Proof being the Aussie sim, which is something like 500km long. I think some of the timetabled freights take in excess of 12 hours to go from one end to the other.

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Norfolk Branches 13/04/2020 at 21:09 #125748
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ajax103 in post 125743 said:
DaveHarries in post 125737 said:
I have long hoped that we will one day see Colchester ASC as a sim. Thing is that, as with Rugby SCC, you are covering a lot of route miles. Therefore you would probably need separate sims, say:

Sim 'A' would have to cover the Norwich area which is, AFAIK, a panel in Colchester ASC.
Sim 'B' would cover the Ipswich area which is also, TMK, a panel located in Colchester ASC.
Sim 'C' to cover the Colchester, East Gate and Thorpe-le-Soken desks. These are computer workstations.
Sim 'D' to cover Brundall, Lowestoft and Yarmouth

And that would be for starters. However if Cambridge got updated there might be some means of covering the Breckland Line (Ely - Norwich). Anyway we will see. I would be keen on A, B and C for starters.

Dave
I take the opposite view, we already have Liverpool Street and West Anglia so I rather see a Great Eastern sim that chains with Liverpool Street IMO.

True Ajax. I mentioned the wish for a Colchester ASC sim on here in a separate thread: one person replied that they would pay double for it. I also forgot to say that the Breckland Line is under control of Cambridge: if you included that and added Colchester ASC you would have a very large chain.

Dave

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Norfolk Branches 13/04/2020 at 21:24 #125750
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clive in post 125745 said:
DaveHarries in post 125737 said:
I have long hoped that we will one day see Colchester ASC as a sim. Thing is that, as with Rugby SCC, you are covering a lot of route miles. Therefore you would probably need separate sims
Route mileage doesn't make a sim too large to handle. It's the complexity - number of routes, amount of pointwork, and so on - that matters.
Agreed. Borough Market junction was possibly the busiest single manned (double at peaks) box I can think of and controlled maybe 10-15 route miles while Banavie for instance controls many more miles but would be a holiday by comparison.

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Norfolk Branches 13/04/2020 at 21:27 #125751
pebbens
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Definitely!
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Norfolk Branches 14/04/2020 at 10:27 #125767
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jc92 in post 125750 said:
clive in post 125745 said:
DaveHarries in post 125737 said:
I have long hoped that we will one day see Colchester ASC as a sim. Thing is that, as with Rugby SCC, you are covering a lot of route miles. Therefore you would probably need separate sims
Route mileage doesn't make a sim too large to handle. It's the complexity - number of routes, amount of pointwork, and so on - that matters.
Agreed. Borough Market junction was possibly the busiest single manned (double at peaks) box I can think of and controlled maybe 10-15 route miles while Banavie for instance controls many more miles but would be a holiday by comparison.
I think you may be out by a factor of 10 there Joe (or perhaps a typo). BMJ worked the western end of London Bridge through platforms, with the 311 lever London Bridge working the other end. The box was at the opposite end of the bridge over Borough High Street, so little more then 50 yards from the platform ends. It then handed off to Cannon Street which was just across the Thames, and to Metropolitan Junction who controlled the 3rd corner of the triangle. I don't suppose any train was under BMJ control for more than 3/4 mile max, and it had just 31 levers... one man could (just about) reach both ends of the frame without moving!

I would love to have seen the madhouse it must have been during the peak.

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Norfolk Branches 14/04/2020 at 17:08 #125794
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I have a memory that the three "anticlockwise" arms of the triangle were rather tight. If BMJ had a train for Cannon Street, who had a train to go up to Blackfriars, while Metropolitan Junction had a train for BMJ, it was possible for the tail of each train to foul the path for another one. At which point the entire service is [censored].
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Norfolk Branches 14/04/2020 at 18:21 #125799
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Even with the signal overlaps of around 20 foot.

Bill

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Norfolk Branches 15/10/2020 at 22:01 #133126
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Agreed with the idea of introducing a Norfolk Branches sim, maybe with a seamphore-signalled AB era and the modern era?
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Last edited: 16/10/2020 at 12:54 by mallard82
Reason: Added clarity

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