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| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 08/08/2020 at 14:07 #130489 | |
bill_gensheet
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Now available in downloads, When updating for the new 'Loader' features I have revised so that instead of running trains that ran 'mostly a Thursday' it now has more accurate TUE, WED, THU, FRI trains. This mainly affects the oil trains, more often it was the same path with different off-sim destinations. This should chain to the newly released Motherwell 1993 v1.0 and the imminent CSCOT 1993 v3.2. Chaining has been analysed but not tested. Have fun and file your comments / bugs below Bill Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 08/08/2020 at 20:42 #130498 | |
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swiftaw
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I know this may seem like a silly question, but how do I get OM12 out of PC2. I set the route from E428 but it just keeps saying it is Stopped at Signal - Edinburgh PC2.
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| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 08/08/2020 at 20:51 #130499 | |
Splodge
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You need to manually change the points before setting the route (same with the MR platforms)
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| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 08/08/2020 at 20:53 #130500 | |
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swiftaw
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I tried that but I couldn't get the points to switch to PC2, the only options seems to be automatic or manual to PC1. I'll try again. Edit: Never mind, I figured it out, just wasn't quite clicking in the correct spot. Last edited: 08/08/2020 at 20:57 by swiftaw Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 08/08/2020 at 23:13 #130508 | |
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swiftaw
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Just out of curiosity, what class AC loco would you have hauling 1S37 (KX - Edinburgh Mail Train)? As far as I recall the only AC locos on the ECML were Class 91's but I thought there were pretty much all in formation with Mark IV carriages and a DVT.
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| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 08/08/2020 at 23:23 #130510 | |
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JamesN
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RES Class 90
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| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 08/08/2020 at 23:43 #130512 | |
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swiftaw
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JamesN in post 130510 said:RES Class 90Oh yeah, I forgot that some of the 90's were for parcels. I always think of 90s of the WCML equivalent of the 91s in that era. And here is pictorial proof: https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-a-class-90-electric-locomotive-number-90019-penny-black-waits-to-depart-175721669.html Last edited: 08/08/2020 at 23:49 by swiftaw Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 09/08/2020 at 00:59 #130514 | |
postal
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swiftaw in post 130512 said:JamesN in post 130510 said:I once blagged a cab ride (think it was 1N22 15:33 KGX - NCL) from York to Newcastle in about 1991/1992 which should have had a Res Cl.90 at the front. There had been loco problems at KGX and the Cl. 90 had been borrowed to replace a Cl.91 on a passenger service. The Cl.91 was then fixed and we had it blunt end first to Newcastle where it could swap back with the Cl.90.RES Class 90Oh yeah, I forgot that some of the 90's were for parcels. I always think of 90s of the WCML equivalent of the 91s in that era. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 09/08/2020 at 12:23 #130519 | |
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Splodge
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Found a minor issue - the incident log shows 8K03 delivering paint on the Forth Bridge down line, but no corresponding train has entered the area and both 8K03's that enter in Dalmeny Up Yard are blanked in the F4 window
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| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 09/08/2020 at 12:57 #130522 | |
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bill_gensheet
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Thanks - I missed taking out the old 'runs as required 70%' when changing to decisions. The decisions now include a not running option. #31320 Bill Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 10/08/2020 at 11:19 #130535 | |
ajax103
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Not sure why but 5G24 once arrives Kirkcaldy automatically changes headcode to 2G24, this is despite fact that it's booked to reverse in the siding or on the Down Fife just north of station before heading into the Up Fife platform. Shouldn't the headcode stay as 5G24 until it actually arrives in the Up Fife platform to form it's passenger service? 2G24 by the way is a service to Edinburgh via Aberdour. Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 17/08/2020 at 10:22 #130752 | |
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ajax103
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Just so you're aware 1S33 has duplicate next workings, screenshot below just so you're aware. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 17/08/2020 at 10:31 #130753 | |
Hap
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ajax103 in post 130752 said:Just so you're aware 1S33 has duplicate next workings, screenshot below just so you're aware.No it doesn't. It's a decision based on the day. 5S33 goes to Craigy, 5E33 goes to Newcastle/ How to report an issue: www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack:reportanissue Log in to reply The following user said thank you: bill_gensheet |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 17/08/2020 at 10:32 #130754 | |
Meld
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Deleted - that bloody Jock beat me to it  
Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!! Last edited: 17/08/2020 at 10:33 by Meld Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Hap |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 17/08/2020 at 10:46 #130755 | |
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bill_gensheet
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ajax103 in post 130535 said:Not sure why but 5G24 once arrives Kirkcaldy automatically changes headcode to 2G24, this is despite fact that it's booked to reverse in the siding or on the Down Fife just north of station before heading into the Up Fife platform.It should (and used to) behave that way but there's several ACI/ARS bugs affecting that situation, this may be an unintended consequene of fixing the reverse issue as seen at Newton, Braidhurst (Motherwell) and West Calder. As it is mainly 'decorative' and does not affect running they are understandably lower priority to fix. You may find it again with the late nights turning at Thornton. Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 17/08/2020 at 10:55 #130756 | |
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Hap
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ajax103 in post 130535 said:Not sure why but 5G24 once arrives Kirkcaldy automatically changes headcode to 2G24, this is despite fact that it's booked to reverse in the siding or on the Down Fife just north of station before heading into the Up Fife platform. Can't reproduce, ran through it three times with the same outcome of train running through the station as 5G24, reverse at 842 and back onto the Up line where headcode changes to 2G24. If you have a snap shot of roughly at that time, we can take another look from your save. How to report an issue: www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack:reportanissue Last edited: 17/08/2020 at 10:57 by Hap Reason: None given Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 17/08/2020 at 11:59 #130757 | |
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bill_gensheet
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Also run OK for me, running with & without ARS on Loader 5.6. Thornton is also OK for me - but that is a split ECS with 5G23 to the ET558 reversal and 5K28 back, done to make the 'ACI/ARS look through' less likely. Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 17/08/2020 at 22:10 #130791 | |
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ajax103
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Hap in post 130756 said:ajax103 in post 130535 said:I've just taken ARS off at Kirkcaldy and signalled 5G24 into the siding so it reverses behind EK838 as it can reverse behind that signal or behind EK842 which is the signal on the Down Fife.Not sure why but 5G24 once arrives Kirkcaldy automatically changes headcode to 2G24, this is despite fact that it's booked to reverse in the siding or on the Down Fife just north of station before heading into the Up Fife platform. Sraight away, the headcode changes to 2G24 to head back to Edinburgh via Aberdour however one tiny issue means it's not a valid route and that's because there's a limit of shunt board at the Edinburgh end of the Down Fife platform. I've also routed the train behind EK842 and I get no issues at all so seeing as both signals are offered as a timing point to reverse services behind, why am I only getting issues with reversing services behind EK838? Surely both should work with no issues? I've attached the save at 05:40 as the closest save to the train in question.  Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 17/08/2020 at 22:43 #130795 | |
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Hap
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The TT says "PLAT 842" to reverse.
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| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 17/08/2020 at 22:50 #130796 | |
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ajax103
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Hap in post 130795 said:The TT says "PLAT 842" to reverse.True but the timing point at that location has both EK842 or EK838 as signals that you can reverse behind so regardless of it saying Plat 842 to reverse behind, why doesn't it work when you reverse behind EK838? That's what I don't understand as both are alternatives to each other in order to reverse behind so 5G24 should either go non ARS when you set the route to reverse behind the alternative signal or stay as ARS and just accept it as a alternative right? Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 17/08/2020 at 23:06 #130798 | |
headshot119
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ajax103 in post 130796 said:Hap in post 130795 said:The same way that routing a train into platform 2 at Staffordshire, vice platform 3, the train is off planned path as far as ARS is concerned, so ACI may not function, or may give unexpected results.The TT says "PLAT 842" to reverse.True but the timing point at that location has both EK842 or EK838 as signals that you can reverse behind so regardless of it saying Plat 842 to reverse behind, why doesn't it work when you reverse behind EK838? "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 19/08/2020 at 11:02 #130856 | |
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ajax103
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Just a quick one but what line am I meant to route 8K11 onto please as it's currently waiting the signal at Dunbar having complete it's crew change but there's been no engineering notice that's appeared and all it says is that it runs ML to Prestonpans but nothing to say if it's working over the Down or the Up Berwick. I did get the engineering notice about 8K13 though which states Tamper 8K13 working on up line Prestonpans to Oxwellmains and Oxwellmains to Stenton Can I have some clarification on where to route 8K11 please? Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 19/08/2020 at 11:33 #130861 | |
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bill_gensheet
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ML will send it down line - which is the one that causes most impact on other trains You can send it up if you prefer, but will get an off-route. The 'engineering notices' are only generated by the initial timetable decision, although I could look at adding them for the following night. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: ajax103 |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 19/08/2020 at 11:44 #130863 | |
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ajax103
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bill_gensheet in post 130861 said:ML will send it down line - which is the one that causes most impact on other trainsOkay, thank you. Log in to reply |
| Edinburgh 1993 v3.2 timetable 19/08/2020 at 11:59 #130864 | |
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ajax103
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The other thing I was going to query is 0M16 (23:50 Glasgow to Edinburgh LE) as it's booked to arrive at South Loop Siding (West) at 01:02 and depart at 01:37 however when it arrives, the driver doesn't change ends and constantly rings up saying he's waiting at signal E454 when he needs to change ends to reverse via Mound Tunnel on Line W to then shunt onto what is the front of 1M16 waiting in Platform 11. Yes I've taken ARS off for the shunts needed for the sleepers but surely that shouldn't impact on the actions of the drivers? It was in the right place according to the train list, a quick fix was to tell the driver to change ends via the F2 menu. Last edited: 19/08/2020 at 12:05 by ajax103 Reason: None given Log in to reply |