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Bug: ARS sub-area BTN3 (Brighton) re-enables itself

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Bug: ARS sub-area BTN3 (Brighton) re-enables itself 01/12/2020 at 22:40 #134309
belly buster
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Easily reproducible; use the 2019 TT with a 14:00 seed. Disable the BTN3 sub-area and let 1A24 draw up to the buffers. At about 14:04 the BTN3 sub-areas enables itself without intervention.
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Bug: ARS sub-area BTN3 (Brighton) re-enables itself 02/12/2020 at 04:25 #134314
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Cheers Belly Buster.
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Bug: ARS sub-area BTN3 (Brighton) re-enables itself 02/12/2020 at 07:23 #134316
Peter Bennet
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I've had a look at the data file and there it is explicitly coded to do that in very specific circumstances. Why I don't know but it's certainly intentional.

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Bug: ARS sub-area BTN3 (Brighton) re-enables itself 02/12/2020 at 18:40 #134340
GeoffM
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It's there to allow Brighton (P3) to run automatically even if a 12-car comes in to P3 and does not release the route (since it never fully passes the intermediate signal). The logic will pull the intermediate signal which disables the subarea, hence the automatic re-enabling. Part of this is mentioned in the manual.
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Bug: ARS sub-area BTN3 (Brighton) re-enables itself 02/12/2020 at 22:44 #134348
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Maybe the re-enabling could be bypassed if the sub-area is collared?
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Bug: ARS sub-area BTN3 (Brighton) re-enables itself 03/12/2020 at 06:52 #134352
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Could the logic check the state of the ARS button immediately before cancelling the route, save it and then, once the route has been cancelled, restore ARS only if it was actually enabled beforehand? Or are there some limitations to Simsig which would make that impractical to implement?
Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick.
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Bug: ARS sub-area BTN3 (Brighton) re-enables itself 03/12/2020 at 07:59 #134353
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Jan in post 134352 said:
Could the logic check the state of the ARS button immediately before cancelling the route, save it and then, once the route has been cancelled, restore ARS only if it was actually enabled beforehand? Or are there some limitations to Simsig which would make that impractical to implement?
I can't think of anything that would make it difficult, let along impractical. I'll add a note to the Mantis entry.

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