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Manchester Piccadilly Easter Monday 2021 23/04/2021 at 17:26 #138974
chrisch142
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Hi,

unfortunately I have several problems running this timetable right from the start: 6E36 ist not entering at Eccles, 1B59 is not entering at Ashburys, 9E04 has invalid timetable at Manchester Airport...

Maybe the timetable is not compatible with my sim-version?
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Manchester Piccadilly Easter Monday 2021 23/04/2021 at 17:57 #138978
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Did you turn ARS on? It looks like it's not compatible with ARS.
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Manchester Piccadilly Easter Monday 2021 23/04/2021 at 18:40 #138986
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Yes, switching off ARS fixes the problems. The TT description says "for those who prefer to leave ARS switched off" - didn't know that it has to be switched off.
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Manchester Piccadilly Easter Monday 2021 24/04/2021 at 10:48 #139005
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Apologies - I didn't test it with ARS but thought I'd validated all the paths which would make it ARS compatible.

That said, I have just run through the listed trains, revalidated them all with no issues reported, saved and restarted the TT with ARS and 9E04 has still come up with an invalid TT and 6E36 hasn't entered either (so I would assume 1B59 won't).

Previously the TT Analyser has shown no issues, but now I'm running in ARS mode it is showing problems - I'm not sure if Analysis works differently with ARS enabled but it's certainly not happy.

For now, I suggest running in non-ARS mode. I'll work on resolving the ARS issues and release an update as soon as I can.

There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway.
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Manchester Piccadilly Easter Monday 2021 24/04/2021 at 12:46 #139008
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Found the problem - and unsurprisingly for Manchester, it's [mostly] Castlefield - one frequently missing line code at Water St Junction was invalidating a number of ARS timetables but not posing issues in non-ARS mode. Plus a few issues in the Longsight area.

All resolved, I'm running it through with ARS with no hitches so far so hopefully v1.1 will be up later this weekend.

There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway.
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Manchester Piccadilly Easter Monday 2021 24/04/2021 at 21:03 #139017
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Splodge in post 139005 said:

Previously the TT Analyser has shown no issues, but now I'm running in ARS mode it is showing problems - I'm not sure if Analysis works differently with ARS enabled but it's certainly not happy.
The analyser itself doesn't know about ARS. It just attempts to validate the individual timetables and then does further analysis concerning whether all the activities and lengths are consistent. But I suppose the validation is different in ARS (I leave the ARS stuff to Geoff).

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Manchester Piccadilly Easter Monday 2021 25/04/2021 at 15:35 #139042
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V1.1 uploaded and awaiting approval (if a mod could please remove the original upload!)

Now fully compatible with ARS with all trains entering as they should when ARS is operational.

There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway.
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