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Timetable Issue with Harrogate Services

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Timetable Issue with Harrogate Services 28/04/2022 at 21:29 #146300
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I'm currently playing the Leeds East-West SX November 2020 TT. Nothing is spawning coming from Harrogate. Is this a sim compatibility issue?

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Timetable Issue with Harrogate Services 29/04/2022 at 20:53 #146317
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When you say nothing is spawning, are they not entering at all in the message window, or are they just taking a long time to appear?

I've run the simulation myself just now for an hours sim time and 2E51, 3S25, and 2E53 have all entered, albeit it's an incredibly long fringe, and it takes a long time (Per real life) for the train to hit the train describer, and even longer for the first track to show occupied.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Timetable Issue with Harrogate Services 30/04/2022 at 09:55 #146319
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Hi headshot, they're not entering at all in the message window, I was aware it takes a while for them to hit the describer berth. Obviously services to harrogate that don't form from services from Harrogate (so LNER services for example) are fine.
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Timetable Issue with Harrogate Services 30/04/2022 at 20:02 #146320
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2W34 in post 146319 said:
Hi headshot, they're not entering at all in the message window, I was aware it takes a while for them to hit the describer berth. Obviously services to harrogate that don't form from services from Harrogate (so LNER services for example) are fine.

That sounds like an issue with re-entry rules. Did you start the timetable at one of the predefined seed times?

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Timetable Issue with Harrogate Services 30/04/2022 at 21:48 #146322
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The 2020 timetable (current download ver 1) does not have seed starts, or re-entry rules.

However if started in the wrong era (ie 2021, should be 2015-2020) it seems all trains inbound from Up Harrogate are invalid, which would explain things.

It is a user supplied TT which could do with an update to force the era and fix the few invalid trains even in 2015-2020.

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Timetable Issue with Harrogate Services 01/05/2022 at 18:45 #146334
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Thank you Bill, is there any way I could fix these invalid timetables myself for the time being?
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Timetable Issue with Harrogate Services 01/05/2022 at 20:56 #146338
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Yes, with timetable editor (F4)

If you do Tools1 tab - 'Analyse now' you will get a list of the errors in a new window 'timetable analysis'.
Leave this open.
The invalid trains will now be red on the 'timetables' tab of the editor

The edits are:
1E67 change Leeds West Jn 'path' from C to E
Click validate to be sure, then save on the editing box

If you then click the 'timetable analysis' window it will clear the 1E67 error and warnings

The others are:
1S33 change Leeds West Jn 'path' from C to E
2K28 change Leeds West Jn 'path' from C to E
5C00 change Neville Hill West 'line' from GL to FL

Those all validate OK, but might not be the best paths, I have not run through to check that.

Finally you could click the 'scanarios' tab and set Era to 2000-2020.

Best change the timetable name to avoid confusion later - so say add 'v101' to the name and a comment in the description like 'my edit' and then save.

You cannot change era in a saved game, so will need to restart.

Bill

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Timetable Issue with Harrogate Services 02/05/2022 at 17:59 #146353
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Thank you Bill, Harrogate services are now reinstated!
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