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Getting 5M07 to enter 30/06/2022 at 11:27 #147046
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I have a train waiting on P3 expecting a join with 5M07. Once joined, 0T01 divides, and there on down the line, two other train sets are completed as a variety of joins and divides happen all over the station. My problem is that whilst the timetable shows it due out of SB, I can't see how it gets there. In looking at the timetable, the only reference to this train is the join with 3M07. I'm waiting for this train to appear and it's not, which makes subsequent movements hold as well. I've tried to edit the timetable, to give it a definitive entry point - and a time to enter, but it doesn't appear. How can I get this train to arrive as per the timetable? I using the Carlisle 79-80 timetable in the 1980's scenario.
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Getting 5M07 to enter 30/06/2022 at 13:02 #147049
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A save game would be useful to assess what the problem might be.

looking at the timetable, 1P46 arrives into P3 at 04:57 and (among other things) drops 5M07 off the back (UID 5M07AMX) and shunts it to siding B at 05:10. the pilot then leaves it, later coming back and forming a new 5M07 (UID 5M07BMX).

did 1P46 run? if it did then 5M07 should've been shunted when it was handled around 5am? the only time 1P46 won't run is on a Monday, however there Shouldn't be an issue as 3M07 doesn't run either on Mondays.

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Getting 5M07 to enter 30/06/2022 at 15:40 #147052
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Towards the bottom of the Carlisle Manual in the Wiki there is a full set of PDF documents covering the shunt moves made by each pilot which may help when trying to fathom what should be where and how should it have got there. There is also a brief summary of which trains have stock added or detached. If 5M07 was detached from 1P46 then inadvertently sent somewhere off-sim like Wapping Sidings or Collier Lane then the stock has disappeared from the sim and anything downstream of that will not run. This will cause untold problems as not only that consist but every move using that station pilot will not happen.

If the stock for 5M07 is not in Sdg B, then where did you find 0T01 to move the stock from 5S24 from P1 to the Wall Sdg and then the shuttle to Kingmoor Depot.

As Joe (jc92) says a saved game will be helpful as people can then see which other moves have not entered as a result of 5M07 going walkabout. Another good idea with that TT and sim is to set the autosave to 10 minutes or less so you don't have too far to backtrack when you realise that things are going wrong.

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Getting 5M07 to enter 05/07/2022 at 10:42 #147152
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Ok guys, thanks for your replies, and I've used it to dig a bit deeper using the information you've given me. I've launched a few timetables in the 79/80 range, both the generic one and some of the day-specific ones. I think that I've spotted something that I don't understand. 1P46 turns up and does its thing, and then sits waiting for 0T01 which is supposed to come from SA, however when I look into where that comes from, it's referenced as 0T01/CSTP1GMX. However, each timetable I launch, shows that 1GMX is referenced by 0T01/CSTP1FMX. The problem is though that no timetable contains the 1FMX train. Without 1FMX, it appears that 1GMX will not run, and poor only 1P46 will never see its join or do any of the things that are listed after that in the timetable.

What can I do to find 0T01/CSTP1FMX?

Thanks all

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Getting 5M07 to enter 05/07/2022 at 11:16 #147153
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0T01/CSTP1FMX enters from Upperby Yard at 04:30 (where it arrives as 5M18 at 03:23).
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Getting 5M07 to enter 05/07/2022 at 13:28 #147154
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Steve L in post 147152 said:
What can I do to find 0T01/CSTP1FMX?
"Towards the bottom of the Carlisle Manual in the Wiki there is a full set of PDF documents covering the shunt moves made by each pilot which may help when trying to fathom what should be where and how should it have got there."

For example the Tuesday listing for Trip01 includes

TD UID Location Dep Arr Location Details
0T01 CSTP1AMX Wapping Sdgs 01:49 01:51 P1 J 1S04MX
5S04 5S04MX P1 01:53 01:56 P3 J 1S06EMX
0T01 CSTP1BMX P3 02:00 02:03 SC J 5T01AMX
5T01 5T01AMX SC 02:09 02:12 P4 J 1S09 DR CSTP1CMX
0T01 CSTP1CMX P4 02:16 02:19 SC J 5E72V
5E72 5E72V SC 02:54 02:57 P5 DER CSTP1DMX
0T01 CSTP1DMX P5 03:00 03:04 P6 J 5M18MX
5M18 5M18MX P6 03:08 03:23 Upperby Yard
0T01 CSTP1FMX Upperby Yard 04:30 04:45 SA N CSTP1GMX

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Getting 5M07 to enter 05/07/2022 at 14:33 #147155
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Steve L in post 147152 said:
The problem is though that no timetable contains the 1FMX train.
The 6 TTs available all contain the same train listing. The difference is that the nominated day TTs have the decision to force the day of the week weighted to pick the correct day. Every one of the TTs contains 0T01/$CSTP1FMX although the train does not run when the Monday TT is called.

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Getting 5M07 to enter 05/07/2022 at 14:49 #147156
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Thanks - I'll give it another go and see what's going on with things my side.
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Getting 5M07 to enter 05/07/2022 at 14:49 #147157
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Thanks - I'll check them out - I enjoy the Sim, but that's been frustrating me so far
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Getting 5M07 to enter 05/07/2022 at 15:03 #147158
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Steve L in post 147157 said:
Thanks - I'll check them out - I enjoy the Sim, but that's been frustrating me so far
Many users think that the TT is one of the most challenging TTs available for a single player and it is very easy to get into a mess with just one false step. It might be frustrating you now but there is a lot of satisfaction when you get it somewhere near right.

“In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe
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