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| London Bridge ASC Mini Sim May 1982 SX 01/11/2022 at 19:03 #148578 | |
Giantray
330 posts |
I have just uploaded a new Timetable for the London Bridge ASC Mini (awaiting approval) Timetable used is May 1982 WTT along with Supplement No 1 and additional Supplement to the Supplement!! This timetable shows the intensity of service that once used Cannon Street. There are stark differences between this and the 2009 timetable included in the actual sim to watch out for. Namely, many more trains not calling at London Bridge passing calling trains.The requirement to use the crossover at Ewer Street (Up Cx Fast to Up CX Slow) more often to regulate trains at Metropolitan Junction. And because of circumstances with the 1991 Simsig layout, a lot of preplanning ahead of time, all moves in and out of Cannon Street else you may have the dreaded Mexican Stand-off. This was pre-Thameslink but was when South Central trains ran to/from Charing Cross & Tattenham Corner/Caterham during the off peak. One last thing to watch out for is platform workings at both Charing Cross & Cannon Street. This timetable is back in British Rail days when rolling stock was predominantly slam-door EP(Electro-Pneumatic) stock, with very little fixed formations and British Rail loved joining & spliting trains to increase/reduce train lengths. Watchout for these when replatforming. Trains to/from Hastings were of the narrow bodied DEMUs. Avoid stopping these unnessarily as they do not start up as quick as EMU stock. London Bridge ASC (LBASC) was opened in 1976. However, Simsig represents LBASC after 1991, when Cannon Street had been resignalled. The May 1982 timetable for Cannon Street was designed for eight platforms. As a result, with some very clever platform alteration, with very minimal alterations to timings, it works for seven platforms. Also there were half a dozen Cannon Street trains that were booked up Platform 6 at London Bridge and used to use a crossover at Borough Market Jn from the UP CX to the Cannon Street lines. This was removed in 1991 as per the Simsig layout so those trains have been sent via other lines. Other things to note, pre 1990s London Bridge platforms were only ten coaches long so any 12 car trains (mainliners from Kent Coast/Hastings) didn't call at London Bridge often running fast through the Up Passenger Loop in the up direction to CX, and Up & Down Platform 2 at London Bridge on the CAnnon Street side. During the peak periods (Rush Hours) many trains never called at London Bridge, with many overtaking stoppers. Watch the evening peak on the CX side at London Bridge, a lot of emptes come up and sit on the UPV for pathing of other trains. You will find additional moves that have long gone these days, namely Mail/Parcel traffic, Depot stores trains, MLV movements. One MLV move was from London Bridge (Brighton Side) behind L1490 shunt, reverses then up to Charing Cross to attach to a Kent Coastal train. Unfortunately, Simsig presently doesn't permit this move, so I have timetabled the MLV to leave early and run via New Cross to reverse. There is no ARS, the Signalmen of the time didn't have it. I advise running in Easy Mode first time to get used to how services run. Then if you are brave enough try Normal Mode. Plan your moves in advance, keep those trains moving and have fun. I have signalling this area since 1991 and continue to do so. Retired Professional Railwayman (1981-2023); Pway & S&T (1981-88); Former Signalman/Signaller/ Signalling Trainer (1989-2023) [AB, TCB, Mechanical, NX, WestCad, Hitachi SARS]; Railway Historian (esp.SER, LCDR); Member of The Permanent Way Institution.. Log in to reply The following users said thank you: GeoffM, stighetl, jc92 |
| London Bridge ASC Mini Sim May 1982 SX 02/11/2022 at 00:07 #148581 | |
jc92
3629 posts |
Not directly related, but it looks like there is only one London bridge folder for downloads relating to both sims. Would it be worth creating a separate one for the mini sim to avoid any confusion if the author doesn't include "mini sim" in the download title?
"We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| London Bridge ASC Mini Sim May 1982 SX 02/11/2022 at 00:28 #148582 | |
headshot119
4869 posts |
jc92 in post 148581 said:Not directly related, but it looks like there is only one London bridge folder for downloads relating to both sims. Would it be worth creating a separate one for the mini sim to avoid any confusion if the author doesn't include "mini sim" in the download title?Done, and the timetable relating to this thread moved. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: jc92 |
| London Bridge ASC Mini Sim May 1982 SX 02/11/2022 at 02:10 #148583 | |
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jc92
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A couple of bits I've picked up so far: 2Y51 doesn't have a consist selected 2Y03 doesn't have any description or consist info Just about to hit rush hour. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Giantray |
| London Bridge ASC Mini Sim May 1982 SX 02/11/2022 at 09:09 #148585 | |
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Giantray
330 posts |
jc92 in post 148583 said:A couple of bits I've picked up so far:Timetable Version 1.1.0. contains the above updated. Also 5Y01 & 5Y51 consists have been added. Also 5D74 has a train description change to 5F74. Retired Professional Railwayman (1981-2023); Pway & S&T (1981-88); Former Signalman/Signaller/ Signalling Trainer (1989-2023) [AB, TCB, Mechanical, NX, WestCad, Hitachi SARS]; Railway Historian (esp.SER, LCDR); Member of The Permanent Way Institution.. Log in to reply |
| London Bridge ASC Mini Sim May 1982 SX 02/11/2022 at 17:13 #148591 | |
rodney30
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Hello This is an excellent tt. It is interesting to see the different service levels. One TT issue I think. The 2Txx Tattenham Corner to Charing Cross stop at London Bridge. Whilst the 2Txx from Charing Cross to Tattenham Corner do not stop at London Bridge. Many thanks Rodney 30 Log in to reply |
| London Bridge ASC Mini Sim May 1982 SX 27/11/2022 at 07:57 #149001 | |
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Giantray
330 posts |
rodney30 in post 148591 said:HelloApologies for the late response, work got in the way. Well spotted, I will amend the down Tat/Cats to call at LB. I have updated the timetable and a new version should be posted soon. Retired Professional Railwayman (1981-2023); Pway & S&T (1981-88); Former Signalman/Signaller/ Signalling Trainer (1989-2023) [AB, TCB, Mechanical, NX, WestCad, Hitachi SARS]; Railway Historian (esp.SER, LCDR); Member of The Permanent Way Institution.. Log in to reply |