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May 2023 GTR CWN 05/06/2023 at 15:53 #152077
GW43125
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495 posts 		Hi all,

Would anyone by chance happen to have a current (May 2023) GTR CWN or diagrams they could possibly pass me for an upcoming timetable please? Since the demise of UKModernEMU, diagrams are like gold dust these days.

Thanks.
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GTR CWN 05/06/2023 at 16:56 #152078
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986 posts 		As they are controlled documents, it may be an idea to put in a FOI request to the operator. It's no guaranteed, but it's a start.

Craig
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GTR CWN 05/06/2023 at 19:57 #152081
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Online 		There are umpteen official drivers diagrams for sale on e-bay covering the 2006 & 2007 period for FCC Thameslink drivers if your interested in that. But Hap is correct in what he says they would be controlled documents. Maybe in time some of those documents may find there way onto e-bay, but in several years to come.
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GTR CWN 05/06/2023 at 20:13 #152082
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Online 		Hap in post 152078 said:
As they are controlled documents, it may be an idea to put in a FOI request to the operator. It's no guaranteed, but it's a start.

Craig
FOI only applies to government run/controlled bodies. very useful when the operator of last resort operates the service like East coast or Northern, but GTR is a private company and not subject to it.

You could try requesting station working books via FOI which are covered as theyre produced by NR, however they often remove any diagram information as its considered sensitive info belonging to a private company.
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GTR CWN 05/06/2023 at 21:09 #152084
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986 posts 		jc92 in post 152082 said:
Hap in post 152078 said:
As they are controlled documents, it may be an idea to put in a FOI request to the operator. It's no guaranteed, but it's a start.

Craig
FOI only applies to government run/controlled bodies. very useful when the operator of last resort operates the service like East coast or Northern, but GTR is a private company and not subject to it.

You could try requesting station working books via FOI which are covered as theyre produced by NR, however they often remove any diagram information as its considered sensitive info belonging to a private company.
As I said, it's a start, not a guarantee.

But to counter that, My employer has released, albeit redacted, versions of unit diagrams prior to becoming "publicly owned".

Otherwise for an individual to disclose a controlled document is solely on them.
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GTR CWN 08/06/2023 at 14:24 #152108
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60 posts 		Hi

Somebody who may be able to help you is Part time spotter who publishes a daily blog at partimespotter.wordpress.com. This contains daily workings and diagrams for certain classes eg GTR 387 and GTR 717. I believe he works for GTR so may have some access to the CWN's

I have no connection with PTS other than as a satisfied user of his blog but good luck on your quest. Like you I also miss the access to these given by UKModernEMU list.
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