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Latest update problems 10/04/2018 at 23:46 #107449
Oddjob
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I have just downloaded the latest update for New Street and have encountered the following:

Platform 8A (Up direction) TRTS given but no flashing white roundel - minor issue
Train 1M62 given TRTS, route set and signal cleared but train list says "Held by conditions"
Signal 209 goes to approach locking after a train passes it.

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Latest update problems 11/04/2018 at 05:11 #107451
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I can't reproduce 8A TRTS (was given and visibly flashing white with signal at red) though I have just realised the "held by conditions" may be an issue for some signals.

Do you remember which platform 1M62 was in? There are also two of them in the default timetable though I think it may be a signal issue rather than train issue.

Can confirm 205/209/199/208 approach locking though not too sure why at the moment.

Apologies. WIll look again tomorrow.

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Latest update problems 11/04/2018 at 09:08 #107454
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Have missed several trains at New Street that are sat at a Red with no TRTS flashing white roundel saying "Held by conditions", then when signal cleared they move no problem.
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Latest update problems 11/04/2018 at 20:45 #107471
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Unable to route from 172 on platform 6A to 149 on Up Stour and get a points locked message with no other trains around that would be locking route up.

APPEARS TO BE RESOLVED WITH FURTHER UPDATE.

Last edited: 11/04/2018 at 20:46 by Banners88
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Latest update problems 11/04/2018 at 21:44 #107477
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GeoffM Train 1M62 was in platform 6B
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Latest update problems 12/04/2018 at 00:34 #107485
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Down Stour signal 143 causing ACOAs.

Shall I put it on Mantis?

Barry

Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Latest update problems 12/04/2018 at 10:56 #107489
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Now finding problems in routing trains permissively onto platforms. Process is...

1. Route trains through from A to B end of platform, platform 12 for example.
2. Train comes to a stand at the B end of the platform but route remains set in (signal post icon still white).
3. First attempt to route train in permissively says 'cannot overset a different route (182 to 212).
4. If you attempt to cancel the route it goes to '120 seconds approach locking', trying to then retry and still get the 'cannot overset a different route' effectively meaning a 2 minute delay for any train that needs to be signalled permissively.
5. Once 120 second has timed out problem seems to go away and you can route and take back permissive route to your hearts content.

Permissive working still works in all other examples as far as I can work out.

Not been an issue as far as I'm aware until recent update.

Problem of being unable to set a route for low numbered platforms permissive working which does not happen until the track circuit next to it is active is still a problem on this sim.

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Latest update problems 28/04/2018 at 08:33 #107727
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Today, an update of BNS has been released. Click on Loader's Check for Updates button.

Barry

Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Last edited: 28/04/2018 at 08:41 by BarryM
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Latest update problems 28/04/2018 at 08:59 #107729
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Strange, Today, I loaded a previous saved file expecting an Update message. No message appeared!
BNS version 1.6

Barry

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Latest update problems 28/04/2018 at 09:58 #107730
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Morning,

Still have issues setting a route from Sig 172 plt 6 to the Up Stour.

I have downloaded the latest update.

Loader version 4.6.12
BNS version 1.6

Shane

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Latest update problems 28/04/2018 at 10:29 #107732
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boysha in post 107730 said:
Morning,

Still have issues setting a route from Sig 172 plt 6 to the Up Stour.

I have downloaded the latest update.

Loader version 4.6.12
BNS version 1.6

Shane
Re-opened on bug board; Mantis 20119.

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Latest update problems 28/04/2018 at 10:47 #107733
BarryM
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boysha in post 107730 said:
Morning,

Still have issues setting a route from Sig 172 plt 6 to the Up Stour.

I have downloaded the latest update.

Loader version 4.6.12
BNS version 1.6

Shane
I can only assume that the issue was not reported in Mantis.

It has now been reported Mantis 20289.

Barry

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Last edited: 28/04/2018 at 10:59 by BarryM
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Latest update problems 28/04/2018 at 10:50 #107734
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Thanks, also have the same issue from sig 171

Shane

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Latest update problems 31/05/2018 at 23:47 #108394
BarryM
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BarryM in post 107733 said:
boysha in post 107730 said:
Morning,

Still have issues setting a route from Sig 172 plt 6 to the Up Stour.

I have downloaded the latest update.

Loader version 4.6.12
BNS version 1.6

Shane
I can only assume that the issue was not reported in Mantis.

It has now been reported Mantis 20289.

Barry
Latest Update downloaded today. Thank you Geoff.

Barry

Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Latest update problems 02/06/2018 at 11:30 #108414
boysha
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Thanks all, now time to get back to this amazing sim
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Latest update problems 03/08/2018 at 11:08 #110712
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Not seen this reported..
Signal 166 plat 9A and Signal 183 plat 11 fail to clear on passage of train.
Signal 208 plat 2 times out after passage of train.
Signal 209 plat 1 times out after passage of train.
Signal 201 plat 5 times out after passage of train.
Signal 203 plat 4 times out with no train approaching after train leaves platform in opposite direction. (train is beyond approaching signal).

Only happened after the latest update.

Last edited: 03/08/2018 at 11:51 by lazlo52
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Latest update problems 04/08/2018 at 18:15 #110755
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lazlo52 in post 110712 said:
Not seen this reported..
Signal 166 plat 9A and Signal 183 plat 11 fail to clear on passage of train.
Signal 208 plat 2 times out after passage of train.
Signal 209 plat 1 times out after passage of train.
Signal 201 plat 5 times out after passage of train.
Signal 203 plat 4 times out with no train approaching after train leaves platform in opposite direction. (train is beyond approaching signal).

Only happened after the latest update.
Hmm, single TC routes. "Signal 166 plat 9A and Signal 183 plat 11 fail to clear on passage of train" - I think you mean the route failed to cancel. The signals would be broken if they clear as a train passes

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Latest update problems 08/08/2018 at 17:59 #110838
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GeoffM in post 110755 said:
lazlo52 in post 110712 said:
Not seen this reported..
Signal 166 plat 9A and Signal 183 plat 11 fail to clear on passage of train.
Signal 208 plat 2 times out after passage of train.
Signal 209 plat 1 times out after passage of train.
Signal 201 plat 5 times out after passage of train.
Signal 203 plat 4 times out with no train approaching after train leaves platform in opposite direction. (train is beyond approaching signal).

Only happened after the latest update.
Hmm, single TC routes. "Signal 166 plat 9A and Signal 183 plat 11 fail to clear on passage of train" - I think you mean the route failed to cancel. The signals would be broken if they clear as a train passes :D
Absolutely right, error on my part. Signal failed to cancel.

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Latest update problems 01/01/2019 at 13:46 #114518
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Routes appear to be sticking (unsure if this is the right terminology) after the passage of trains again.

166 to 165 on PL9, 183 to 214 on PL11.

On the middle platforms 7&8 if there is a train being signalled and leaving another portion of the train on the other end of the platform the route not only 'sticks' but then pulls off meaning a COA if the train left is not due to depart for whatever reason.

Understand this may be accurate to real life, but as it hasn't been like this since the last update wondering if this may be a bug?

Attached a save as it happens with multiple New St games I have started since Christmas. See 2L00 & 5P10 on PL8.

**Further problem with releasing trains from Soho, unable to clear 310 to 309 unless the train is stood at the signal 310 with 'no overlap available' despite no other trains being around and no conflicting moves - 5U08 dep Soho 331 at 0605 on save.**

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Latest update problems 07/01/2019 at 12:03 #114611
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crossover should have been forced into the normal position when clearing the route

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g7mfeirrrbs74vp/New%20Street%20Locking%20Problem.png?dl=0

Last edited: 07/01/2019 at 12:09 by DaveBarraza
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Latest update problems 07/01/2019 at 13:58 #114613
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DaveBarraza in post 114611 said:
crossover should have been forced into the normal position when clearing the route

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g7mfeirrrbs74vp/New%20Street%20Locking%20Problem.png?dl=0
Already marked as resolved on mantis for a future update.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Latest update problems 07/01/2019 at 19:03 #114620
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Unless as per real life:

further problems with subsidiary signals not pulling off until the track berth they sit next to is occupied (eg 12A 182 to 212 when 12B is occupied.

Also:

Proof House Jn 144 reverts causing a COA when moving trains from Stour lines to Derby lines then swinging points back to Stour lines.

Last edited: 07/01/2019 at 19:04 by Banners88
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Latest update problems 11/01/2019 at 12:26 #114662
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Thanks.

Sorry about the post duplications

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Check Mantis first 11/01/2019 at 12:27 #114663
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Can one check "Mantis" for these problems - to avoid posting on the forum about them?
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Latest update problems 11/01/2019 at 13:32 #114664
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DaveBarraza in post 114663 said:
Can one check "Mantis" for these problems - to avoid posting on the forum about them?
No, Mantis is only accessible to testers and developers.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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