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Freight Speeds Down 12/02/2018 at 17:40 #105855
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Playing the 2009 timetable on Oxford. Have tried both 0000 start and 0445 start.

Trains entering from Banbury start off at 75mph but then get stuck at 23mph falling to 8mph then fluctuating at various speeds, see 4O52 and 4Q11.

Trains entering from Didcot start at 75mph but again then fall and get stuck at 54mph, again then fluctating at speeds unrealistic to the simulation settling around 65mph.

There are no TSRs or weather issues. Possible a bug around level crossings?

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Freight Speeds Down 12/02/2018 at 17:46 #105857
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Banners88 in post 105855 said:
Playing the 2009 timetable on Oxford. Have tried both 0000 start and 0445 start.

Trains entering from Banbury start off at 75mph but then get stuck at 23mph falling to 8mph then fluctuating at various speeds, see 4O52 and 4Q11.

Trains entering from Didcot start at 75mph but again then fall and get stuck at 54mph, again then fluctating at speeds unrealistic to the simulation settling around 65mph.

There are no TSRs or weather issues. Possible a bug around level crossings?
Having just had a look, Oxford PSB is one of the few sims that have custom driving rules for freight trains, since the last loader update (to 4.6.11), the custom driving rules have been behaving oddly, and so far have been unable to see why it is behaving the way it is, it has been logged on mantis (#0019726)

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Freight Speeds Down 12/02/2018 at 17:52 #105858
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Thanks MarkC. While tinkering to see if it was me doing something wrong I altered the 'Class of Service' option from 'Use Rules' to 'Goods' which seems to semi sort the problem. Passenger trains remain unaffected.

Is there anything I can do to continue enjoying the sim until this is fixed rather than changing every freight train individually as it enters the sim?

PS - when something is logged in Mantis what happens to fix the item raised?

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Freight Speeds Down 12/02/2018 at 18:01 #105859
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Banners88 in post 105858 said:
Thanks MarkC. While tinkering to see if it was me doing something wrong I altered the 'Class of Service' option from 'Use Rules' to 'Goods' which seems to semi sort the problem. Passenger trains remain unaffected.

Is there anything I can do to continue enjoying the sim until this is fixed rather than changing every freight train individually as it enters the sim?

PS - when something is logged in Mantis what happens to fix the item raised?
Delete all the defensive driving rules.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Freight Speeds Down 12/02/2018 at 18:06 #105861
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Banners88 in post 105858 said:
Thanks MarkC. While tinkering to see if it was me doing something wrong I altered the 'Class of Service' option from 'Use Rules' to 'Goods' which seems to semi sort the problem. Passenger trains remain unaffected.

Is there anything I can do to continue enjoying the sim until this is fixed rather than changing every freight train individually as it enters the sim?

PS - when something is logged in Mantis what happens to fix the item raised?
One option to sort out until a fix is sorted is to go into all train types and set defensive driving to "sim defaults" then you can save the timetable (I would recommed using a different file name for this course of action), and restart the sim from scratch.

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Freight Speeds Down 12/02/2018 at 18:55 #105863
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Sorry, I'm struggling to follow the instructions. Can you do it step by step?
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Freight Speeds Down 12/02/2018 at 19:18 #105864
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Banners88 in post 105863 said:
Sorry, I'm struggling to follow the instructions. Can you do it step by step?
Open up the sim with the selected timetable (best start paused) open up the timetable window (F4) goto the tab labeled Driving and delete all the rules, exit the tt windows then click on the menu option "timetable" and select "save as" type in a name to save the timetable. exit the sim and restart the sim selecting the timetable you just saved (it should appear under the name you gave it).

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Freight Speeds Down 12/02/2018 at 21:38 #105869
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Banners88 in post 105858 said:
PS - when something is logged in Mantis what happens to fix the item raised?
The developer (or timetable author, as appropriate) automatically gets an email to say a ticket has been raised. That ticket will also show to the developer in the list of things to do. We don't currently have a good way of linking back to the forum that something has been done, except by including the change log in the release notes for an updated simulation/timetable.

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Freight Speeds Down 05/04/2018 at 21:06 #107336
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Sorry to bump this...

Has this problem been fixed? Good single player sim for when waiting in queues on multiplayer evenings!

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Freight Speeds Down 28/04/2018 at 18:57 #107738
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*BUMP* *AGAIN*

Any news?

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Freight Speeds Down 28/04/2018 at 19:02 #107739
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Banners88 in post 107738 said:
*BUMP* *AGAIN*

Any news?
As a new loader hasn't been released yet. No there is no news.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Freight Speeds Down 28/04/2018 at 20:01 #107741
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Thank you. Apologies if I am being ignorant.

Is there a way of finding out when these problems have been fixed, without looking through the forum? It is currently preventing me from playing the Oxford sim, especially as I have paid for the product.

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Freight Speeds Down 28/04/2018 at 20:30 #107742
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Banners88 in post 107741 said:
It is currently preventing me from playing the Oxford sim, especially as I have paid for the product.
Have you tried the workaround suggested by MarkC?

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Freight Speeds Down 07/05/2018 at 21:07 #107857
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Fixed in loader 4.7
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Freight Speeds Down 18/05/2018 at 22:32 #108069
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Banners88 in post 107741 said:
Thank you. Apologies if I am being ignorant.

Is there a way of finding out when these problems have been fixed, without looking through the forum? It is currently preventing me from playing the Oxford sim, especially as I have paid for the product.
For future reference, Loader updates are documented at https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack%3Ainstall%3Aversions and sim updates are often documented on the wiki page of the sim but those sometimes get forgotten.

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