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Double yellow aspect on signal 141 -> 653 27/02/2021 at 10:51 #137486
Albert
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When routing from signal 141 (Up Badminton) 'wrong line' towards signal 653 and the onwards route is not set, signal 141 will display a double yellow aspect after approach control. However, the relevant red signal 653 is rather far away. Isn't the wrong line signalling supposed to be 3-aspect rather than 4-aspect, meaning 141 would display green with a junction indicator?
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Double yellow aspect on signal 141 -> 653 27/02/2021 at 17:21 #137502
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Albert in post 137486 said:
When routing from signal 141 (Up Badminton) 'wrong line' towards signal 653 and the onwards route is not set, signal 141 will display a double yellow aspect after approach control. However, the relevant red signal 653 is rather far away. Isn't the wrong line signalling supposed to be 3-aspect rather than 4-aspect, meaning 141 would display green with a junction indicator?
Not necessarily. Even if the wrong-line signalling is 3-aspect, it's the crossing-over that signifies that you're changing to a different signalling system and, therefore, the signal protecting the crossing should show YY, not G (I'm assuming 653 has a repeater; I don't know the area).

On the ECML north of Peterborough (and visible in the sim) the signal protecting a fast-to-slow crossover is restricted to double yellow for trains crossing over, even if the next signal on the slow is green.

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Double yellow aspect on signal 141 -> 653 27/02/2021 at 17:28 #137503
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Thanks for the insight, and you're right that the signal has a repeater.

Signal 741 to 653 (Down Badminton to Down Main, staying on the wrong line) has a G aspect.

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Double yellow aspect on signal 141 -> 653 06/03/2021 at 22:49 #137674
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For what it's worth, signal 986 at Wantage in a similar situation does not display double yellow. Signals 4 and 931 do when routing wrong line but that is fairly logical as they are actually 2 block distances away from red.
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