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| Rules and Regs 24/08/2010 at 09:15 #1666 | |
caedave
142 posts |
Can anyone quote or point me to a chapter and verse on the use of the emergency stop on a full auto signal please. Dave M. Log in to reply |
| Rules and Regs 24/08/2010 at 09:15 #10946 | |
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caedave
142 posts |
Can anyone quote or point me to a chapter and verse on the use of the emergency stop on a full auto signal please. Dave M. Log in to reply |
| Rules and Regs 24/08/2010 at 17:13 #10968 | |
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UKTrainMan
1803 posts |
Wasn't this previously discussed quite extensively before?!! Or am I misreading/misunderstanding you?!!
Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| Rules and Regs 24/08/2010 at 18:21 #10976 | |
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caedave
142 posts |
It was, though not extensively, just a comment on a particular sim. This time I'm looking to read and get to understand the actual regulation. Dave M. Log in to reply |
| Rules and Regs 24/08/2010 at 19:01 #10983 | |
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UKTrainMan
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Ah! In that case I suspect you may be able to find it at/on RGS Online. Try the Rule Books, maybe the Rule Book Modules - one of these Rule Book Modules ought to have your answer, I'd imagine. Hope this helps. Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| Rules and Regs 24/08/2010 at 23:07 #10992 | |
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caedave
142 posts |
I thank you. I had this site and for some reason had removed it. Now saved in my must keep folder. Dave M. Log in to reply |
| Rules and Regs 25/08/2010 at 07:53 #10995 | |
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ralphjwchadkirk
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I had an extensive look through the rule book last night for them, but I couldn't find any references to them. I can only assume that they are then part of the SBI's.
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| Rules and Regs 25/08/2010 at 09:41 #10998 | |
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caedave
142 posts |
Did same with same result. The emergency stop is not even quoted or covered in the Signal types. It's beginning to look like a call to Sig School maybe required. Dave M. Log in to reply |
| Rules and Regs 25/08/2010 at 11:34 #11001 | |
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UKTrainMan
1803 posts |
I may have linked to the wrong Rule Book modules (but the link was only a suggestion of a possible location of the answer). You might want to try one of these rule book modules instead, indeed I am currently reading through GERT8000-TS1 Iss 5 (instead of downloading the .pdf, you may want to view it via Google Docs) and it is making references to "Replacing a stop signal to danger" in section 4.4 which may contain your answer. That said, I can't promise anything as rule books are most certainly not my speciality subject as I may have already shown above. Hope this helps, this time. If it does not then I'll sit quietly and wait for, hopefully, one of the actual signallers around here to respond with a more useful answer. Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| Rules and Regs 22/10/2010 at 00:34 #12089 | |
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digitalgraham
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I think you might be talking about an Auto signal with an ERS fitted (Emergency Replacement Switch). If this is the case the only mention it gets is in Rule Book TS2 3.2.3 3.2.3 Keeping a signal at danger When it is necessary to keep a signal at danger, this also applies to an automatic signal for which there is an emergency replacement switch in the signal box. Hope this helps. Log in to reply |
| Rules and Regs 22/10/2010 at 15:52 #12091 | |
headshot119
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caedave said:Can anyone quote or point me to a chapter and verse on the use of the emergency stop on a full auto signal please.There is a notable difference in replacement switches. A replacement switch is associated with a specific signal and can be used to regulate traffic, as it simply holds the signal at danger, An emergency switch is different and usually returns all signals on the panel to danger. Hope this helps. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Rules and Regs 22/10/2010 at 21:56 #12096 | |
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TomOF
452 posts |
Just to expand a little, An auto signal with an 'e' is found on workstations covering Route Relay Interlockings. They cannot be relied upon to hold the signal at danger. There is no feed back from the interlocking to the workstation / panel to say that the signal has gone back to danger so the only confirmation a signaller has is the signal indication lamp going red. An auto signal with an 'r' is a signal that can be relied upon to be held at danger. Pretty much all new SSI schemes have this and will often be provided at every auto signal as the cost involved in providing it is pretty low. A control on a workstation placing multiple signals back to danger is referred to as an Signal Group Replacement Control (SGRC) - this was brought in after Ladbroke grove as a less savage alternative to the Emergency Signals On Control (ESOC) which involves cutting off power to an interlocking - the two still exist side by side though. Log in to reply |
| Rules and Regs 23/10/2010 at 03:01 #12102 | |
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Firefly
521 posts |
USER said:An auto signal with an 'e' is found on workstations covering Route Relay Interlockings. They cannot be relied upon to hold the signal at danger.R buttons are also used on RRI panels and workstations. It just costs more to do on RRI as you need to send an On indication back to the interlocking. Log in to reply |