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| Coronation Street 31/08/2010 at 12:09 #1702 | |
Haraubrad
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Did anyone see that load of cobblers last night on Coronation Street. A train divided and left the last coach behind with no brake application. Also the train left the previous station with someone holding the coupling sitting onr the platform. Why did the last coach leave with the train? Don't these script writers have any idea how a railway works? Aubrey Log in to reply |
| Coronation Street 31/08/2010 at 12:09 #11196 | |
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Haraubrad
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Did anyone see that load of cobblers last night on Coronation Street. A train divided and left the last coach behind with no brake application. Also the train left the previous station with someone holding the coupling sitting onr the platform. Why did the last coach leave with the train? Don't these script writers have any idea how a railway works? Aubrey Log in to reply |
| Coronation Street 31/08/2010 at 14:08 #11200 | |
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Tristan
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Answer to your question: No they have no Idea at all.
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| Coronation Street 31/08/2010 at 14:25 #11201 | |
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Woodhead Signalman
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This is quite correct - They Have NO Idea At All - !!  I guess as long as it makes for 'exciting' televisual tittilation they will do it! :rolleyes:
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| Coronation Street 31/08/2010 at 16:53 #11209 | |
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hornby0729
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I am no expert but would the brake pipes hold the carriage at low speeds and for a limited time? (although not for as long has shown on the program...)
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| Coronation Street 31/08/2010 at 19:03 #11212 | |
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Sam Tugwell
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well, at the speed that 44871 was going, then it was a load of rubbish
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| Coronation Street 31/08/2010 at 20:09 #11213 | |
jc92
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i didnt watch the program but im guessing something parted then carried on then something else happened... with dual pipe air brakes, a parting leads to a full brake application/ lock on. without pulling strings and resetting the system all fitted vehicles would stop
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| Coronation Street 01/09/2010 at 20:24 #11238 | |
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nnr
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Don't forget that this tripe is, alas, produced to be understood by the "lowest common denominator" of audiences. Anything more complicated or technical that it is already would see the viewing figures plummet (as it would all be over their heads) and therefore advertising revenue would follow in the same way. Just for an experiment, watch one of the ITV soaps and make a note of the advertisements. Then watch a proper drama and again note the ads. You will see a significant difference. The advertisers are aiming at different audiences and you can tell by the different style of ads appearing in each programme, ie it's doubtful you will see an ad for the latest BMW model in the soaps and unlikely to see an ad for "Hello Magazine" during, e.g., "Foyles War". The only snag is, from the information Aubrey passed on in post 1, that the "lowest common denominator" will now be convinced that individual carriages have no brakes..................... It reminds me, whilst stood one day on the platform, of the granddad who was asked by his grandson why the fireman was using the slacking hose on the coal. Obviously granddad had not a clue, but suddenly the "60w bulb" appeared above his head and he told his grandson "Well, they put the water on th coal, put the coal on the fire and the water turns to steam which makes the engine go" The poor lad will go through life thinking this is now true. Neil ps - please don't think i'm anti - soap - I think "Eastenders" is one of the best comedy shows on at the moment. Log in to reply |
| Coronation Street 01/09/2010 at 22:01 #11239 | |
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ozzyd9001
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coranation street????? isent that a tin of sweets??? Log in to reply |
| Coronation Street 02/09/2010 at 09:34 #11244 | |
moonraker
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The pipe they were holding upon discovery was a vacuum break pipe and if memory serves me correctly a vacuum break pipe coming apart should also initiate a break application but as we are talking "Kettles" then it may be a Steam Break Pipe in which case I'm not so sure.
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| Coronation Street 02/09/2010 at 17:41 #11253 | |
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Late Turn
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Looked very much like the brake pipe to me, so yes, the vacuum would have been destroyed in the brake pipe through the train.
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| Coronation Street 02/09/2010 at 20:34 #11256 | |
postal
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moonraker said:The pipe they were holding upon discovery was a vacuum break pipe and if memory serves me correctly a vacuum break pipe coming apart should also initiate a break application but as we are talking "Kettles" then it may be a Steam Break Pipe in which case I'm not so sure.Since the Board of Trade introduced a requirement for continuous brakes on passenger carrying trains after the Armagh accident in 1889, all UK steam locomotives have braked their trains using either vacuum (the more common) or compressed air. Where a steam locomotive is noted as having steam brakes, these are the brakes applied to the locomotive and not the train. However, steam locomotives designed for working passenger trains normally had a hose similar to the brake connection for carrying steam to the coaches for heating purposes. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Coronation Street 02/09/2010 at 22:18 #11258 | |
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moonraker
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So the crux of the matter is then that the train should have come to a grinding halt once the pipes parted. Shame on you Granada TV :mad:
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| Coronation Street 03/09/2010 at 18:59 #11266 | |
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Late Turn
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Having gone and watched the episode in its entirety (rather than catching the last few minutes by accident!), I find it equally puzzling that removing an unrecognisable component can cause a train to depart complete but detach a portion some time later...! And yes, the whole lot *should* have come to a sudden stand, though I'm sure there's been at least one case where the front portion has continued - if the brake pipe becomes partially blocked as it detaches (which is more likely with vacuum brakes, where the brake is destroyed by an inflow of air and potentially assorted debris), the exhauster on the loco might be able to overcome the partial loss of vacuum. Glad to see that they remembered to leave the most important part of the train off (i.e. the tail lamp!) when filming the front portion alone.
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| Coronation Street 03/09/2010 at 19:17 #11267 | |
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derbybest
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Well with the incompetant researchers with the forthcoming tram crash the will probably use a Blackpool tram lol Chris Log in to reply |
| Coronation Street 03/09/2010 at 20:12 #11269 | |
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moonraker
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Yes the mind boggles at what it'll be like :rolleyes:
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| Coronation Street 03/09/2010 at 21:11 #11270 | |
Peter Bennet
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I'm presuming that the one that passes during the titles sequence falls off onto Rita's shop and bounces off her hair. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Coronation Street 04/09/2010 at 13:21 #11278 | |
Right Away
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Late Turn, I hope that watching an entire episode has not done you any lasting damage. The first few notes of the ‘theme tune’ are enough to get me diving for the remote much to the annoyance of my good lady eager as ever to enter a self-induced trance for the next thirty minutes. Fortunately there are a couple of Freeview channels offering such delights as Chris Barrie’s Massive Engines or Massive Speed and old Fred Dibnah (God bless him) programmes as an antidote to a soap overdose.
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| Coronation Street 04/09/2010 at 18:49 #11283 | |
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Late Turn
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Fortunately, the power of the Internet allowed me to skip forward to the brief moment of interest without having to suffer the intervening nonsense!
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