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"Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 13/11/2011 at 07:03 #22826
maxand
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1637 posts 		I saw this message in the Southampton sim and wondered if it should have been "right-of-way". Never heard of "right-away" used in this context, only in "I'll do it right away" (meaning immediately).
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Re: "Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 13/11/2011 at 07:13 #22827
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275 posts 		Right-away is when the guard gives the right away signal to the driver. Officially, it is the ready-to-start signal.

In that case, I suspect it means the driver is waiting for the signal to clear and his departure time.
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Re: "Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 13/11/2011 at 07:47 #22830
Peter Bennet
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Online 		At many stations it accompanied by an illuminated sign "RA" on the signal post, often preceded by a "CD" for close doors- which enables the driver to receive the instructions without leaving his seat and looking back to the guard/platform staff.

There's a bit about it all here.

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Re: "Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 13/11/2011 at 10:35 #22834
AndyG
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1835 posts 		I guess 'Right Away' is short for 'All right to start and move away'
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Re: "Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 13/11/2011 at 11:48 #22837
maxand
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1637 posts 		Thanks to all who replied. That clears that up!

Peter, I couldn't make your link work but this seems to be correct.

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4.10 Right-away indicators

Right-away indicators display the letters R or RA. If this indicator is illuminated, it lets the driver know that:

• station duties are complete
• the train is secure
• it is safe to proceed as indicated by the signal aspect.
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Re: "Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 13/11/2011 at 13:30 #22848
Danny252
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1461 posts 		If he's waiting for the Right of Way, I think we need to ask someone where the track's gone...
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Re: "Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 13/11/2011 at 14:28 #22853
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1712 posts 		I think ultimately its jargon. AndyG is absolutely right about the meaning but I've never heard of any more verbose instruction/description it could be derived from; not to say there wasn't, back in even earlier days than mine...
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Re: "Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 13/11/2011 at 15:12 #22855
Peter Bennet
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Online 		Possible etymology might be a spoken "right, away [you go] driver".

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Re: "Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 13/11/2011 at 15:45 #22858
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77 posts 		IN my (brief) experience, "the Right Away" is a synonym for giving the driver permission to proceed immediately, or "right away". "Giving The Right Away" is correctly referred to as "Operating the TRTS/TRS".
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Re: "Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 13/11/2011 at 16:06 #22860
Zoe
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251 posts 		" said:
"Giving The Right Away" is correctly referred to as "Operating the TRTS/TRS".

TRTS is different, it is simply letting the signalman know that the train is ready to start. The RA button is separate.
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Re: "Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 14/11/2011 at 03:54 #22879
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390 posts 		" said:
" said:
"Giving The Right Away" is correctly referred to as "Operating the TRTS/TRS".

TRTS is different, it is simply letting the signalman know that the train is ready to start. The RA button is separate.
How I tell it to new starters at work.......

TRTS - 2 to 2 1/2 minutes before to notify the "Bobby" that you are there, the train is fully crewed and is ready to roll.
CD - Close Doors, nominally used for driver only operated services, whether the be in service or an ECS move.
RA - Right away, station work complete and doors secured, so off you go driver.

They seem to grasp it quicker this way.
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Re: "Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 14/11/2011 at 05:37 #22880
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189 posts 		Right-away goes back a long way. I am without my "Red for Danger" at the moment, but I recall there was an accident on the Cornwall rly. - Menheniot I think - in the mid 1800's. With 2 trains in the platform the Station Master shouted "Right away Dick". Unfortunately for him both guards were named Dick and unfortunate consequences ensued when the wrong train left.
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Re: "Right-away" or "right-of-way"? 30/12/2011 at 14:11 #26463
TimB2010
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77 posts 		Having re-read my comment, you are absolutely right Zoe.
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