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Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 01:05 #24530
TylerE
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I'm having a problem with Saltey where the sim crashes very frequently, sometimes with in a minute or two or starting a sim. The trigger is always click on the vertical scroll bar - this causes the window to turn grey and and the program to stop responding.

Edit 1: Windows 7 64bit, latest drivers and Simsig system files, all other sims, including Euston, are fine.

Edit 2: Towards the bottom to scroll it down. Below the bar and above the arrow (so as to get it to scroll all the way down). Overiew is open also, which why the thing doesn't fit vertically to begin with (1680x1050 screen).

Last edited: 06/12/2011 at 01:11 by TylerE
Reason: More info again

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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 01:09 #24531
UKTrainMan
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Which operating system are you running?
Are you up to date with the latest system files?
Where exactly on the verticle scroll bar are you clicking which is causing this?

Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for.
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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 01:43 #24532
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What happens if you reduce the window by using the "restore down" tab located on the top right hand corner?

Barry

Forget that. I does not have a "restore down" lol.

Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Last edited: 06/12/2011 at 01:47 by BarryM
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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 01:45 #24533
TylerE
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Nothing. The process is hung. Only way out is to open task manager and kill it. None of the other control methods (F-keys, etc) respond either.
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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 01:55 #24534
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Tyler,
I feel that it is screen problem with 7. It works okay in XP. Can you emulate XP? If so, may be the way to go

Barry

Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 02:01 #24535
TylerE
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Not sure if I have the XP emulation stuff installed. But like I said, I don't have this problem with any of the other sims, 100's of hours logged without it ever crashing.
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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 03:07 #24538
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" said:
Not sure if I have the XP emulation stuff installed. But like I said, I don't have this problem with any of the other sims, 100's of hours logged without it ever crashing.
Saltley is larger in the vertical than any of the other sims.

Barry

Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 03:54 #24539
TylerE
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Nah mate, Trent is way bigger.
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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 03:56 #24540
TylerE
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Ok, hold the phone... I just fired up Trent for this first time in over a year - and just promptly managed to freeze Trent trying to scroll the exact same way.
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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 05:00 #24541
TylerE
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Attempts to horizontally scroll on (at least) Kings Cross also freeze the sim. I can provide a dump file saved from task manager if that would be helpful.

Edit: KingsX Dump - http://www.tylere.net/KingsX.zip (Link should work within 15 minutes of edit, uploading now, I'm going to bed)

Last edited: 06/12/2011 at 05:02 by TylerE
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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 06:48 #24543
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" said:
Nah mate, Trent is way bigger.
Your right Tyler. I was thinking of the latest sims.

Barry

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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 09:24 #24548
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I doubt it has anything do with Windows 7 64Bit. Myself and atleast AGilchrist use it and don't have any issues.

So some more questions for you. Is it one monitor you are using. Are you graphics drivers up to date? If your using an ATI graphics card are you using that rather annoying virtual desktop extender?

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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 13:00 #24557
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Do you have a scroll wheel on your mouse?
Does it hang when doing Shift + Wheel Scroll?

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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 14:32 #24566
TylerE
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ATI card yes, but single monitor setup, nothing fancy.

Will try the mouse scroll thing when I get home (~8 hrs)

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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 16:24 #24579
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What version of the ATI display driver? And what version of CCC (Catalyst Control Center)? And what grayling card?

I remember my 4830 not liking the original version 9 drivers when scrolling in SimSig, paged sims would also cause a black screen.

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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 19:27 #24593
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I think this is the same issue as
ttp://SimSig.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=14&id=19814&Itemid=145#19814

I've had this happen, especially Trent. That thread recommends rebooting, which I hate doing :D
Just tried Saltley, clicked the space on the vertical scrollbar, freeze. Restarted it, tried the horizontal scrollbar, and nothing happened, but the vertical scrollbar works fine, so try that. FYI, I'm using WinXP and an ATI card w/2 monitors, and my card is half dead, and the drivers haven't been updated for years

Last edited: 06/12/2011 at 19:44 by Kage
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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 19:30 #24594
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I use Windows 7 64-bit and have never had a problem.
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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 20:51 #24597
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For what my two pennorths worth, I use Vista Home Premium 32 bit and had no problems on any sims so far, scrolly or paged.
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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 22:21 #24602
TylerE
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Radeon 4870x2
Catalyst 11.9
CCC: 2011.0908.1355.23115

Going to go for a reboot and see what happens.

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Re: Sim Crashing 06/12/2011 at 23:07 #24608
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Reboot seems to have things sorted.
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