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Trip Editor - change checkboxes to radio buttons 20/02/2012 at 05:44 #29708
maxand
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1637 posts 		I'm puzzled why the Trip Editor uses checkboxes for Passing Time, Set down only and Thru line stop instead of radio buttons here.



Whether one checks one, two or three boxes, the format chosen is that of the lowest box checked. While this works OK, it could be a little confusing. Radio buttons seem more appropriate for this purpose. Hope you don't mind my pointing this out.
Last edited: 20/02/2012 at 06:34 by maxand
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Re: Trip Editor - change checkboxes to radio buttons 20/02/2012 at 09:09 #29713
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3923 posts 		What if you just want a normal departure time? You'd have to add another button. As it is, I think it's obvious that only one should be ticked.
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Last edited: 20/02/2012 at 09:24 by Steamer
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Re: Trip Editor - change checkboxes to radio buttons 20/02/2012 at 09:19 #29714
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6284 posts 		Set down and thru line stops can be used together - the first to allow a train to depart early, the second at a non-platform.
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Re: Trip Editor - change checkboxes to radio buttons 20/02/2012 at 09:59 #29720
maxand
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1637 posts 		Quote:
Set down and thru line stops can be used together

If so, how would one know that a thru line stop is also a set stop, since the only dividing character displayed is t, not dt? (e.g., 12t34, not 12dt34)

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What if you just want a normal departure time? You'd have to add another button. As it is, I think it's obvious that only one should be ticked.

This is usually solved in one of two ways.

(1) Have one checkbox marked Normal or something equivalent, plus 3 radio buttons for Passing, etc. If the user checks Normal, the radio buttons are displayed disabled. If Normal is unchecked, they are enabled.

(2) Have 4 radio buttons as you suggest, Normal plus the other 3. I think I prefer this way as all 4 buttons carry equal significance. The important issue is that they should all be mutually exclusive, not additive. At least that's my understanding. Geoff has said d and t may be added, but I don't understand yet how a user would know this without seeing an extra character in the timing code.

(added) On reflection, there's an even more elegant third way. If it is logical to combine say d and t checkboxes but no others, add a little extra code to the 3 checkboxes so that:

  • If none are checked, that's a Normal departure;

  • if Passing is checked, the others are disabled or unchecked;

  • if d or t are checked, the other of the pair is able to be checked

  • etc.



In other words, the checkboxes behave somewhat like radio buttons too. This behaviour would require a little explanation in the Wiki but would not leave the user guessing what the significance of 3 checked boxes implies. This only requires 3 checkboxes so does not disturb the original layout, only its behaviour.
Last edited: 20/02/2012 at 10:23 by maxand
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Re: Trip Editor - change checkboxes to radio buttons 20/02/2012 at 10:20 #29721
Josie
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310 posts 		" said:
Geoff has said d and t may be added, but I don't understand yet how a user would know this without seeing an extra character in the timing code.
I suppose the fact that a stop is set-down only is useful to know but not critical, because the train will depart when ready without further intervention; but which line it stops on is a decision which has to be made by the signaller before the train arrives. So given the option only to see one, I think through-line stop is a more important one to show.
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