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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 23/04/2012 at 11:44 #31741
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Thanks Geoff that would be very cool!!
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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 23/04/2012 at 21:52 #31746
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The problem, for those unfamiliar, is that while the sims were always 32-bit code, the early sims used a 16-bit installer, which won't run under Modern Windows (I don't think the old installers will run on 32bit Windows 7 either, as the underlying 16-bit subsystem has been totally expunged).
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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 23/04/2012 at 23:31 #31748
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PS Checked today and was happily running Kings X under Windows 8 32-bit Consumer Preview ..... So that's that beta tested ... ( PS Was a Win 7 upgrade so not a new install, but ran perfectly ! ) Just in case anyone was wondering.
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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 24/04/2012 at 00:30 #31749
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I ran the 16-bit programme twice but still didn't work :sick:
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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 24/04/2012 at 16:45 #31771
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SimSig is protected by copyright. No SimSig file may be distribution by any other website, by CD ROM or other media without express written permission from SimSig Ltd. The only exception is when SimSig files are transferred between private individuals where no charge, fee or profit is levied.

quoted from Clives manual for euston

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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 24/04/2012 at 16:55 #31772
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" said:

quoted from Clives manual for euston(sic, highlighting added by me)
Not sure what that has to do with this...

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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 24/04/2012 at 17:05 #31773
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What the quote appears to be getting at is that whilst it would not be allowed to sell a copy to anyone, to transfer it for no profit would be permitted.

The way I would read it is that if a person wanted to ZIP the files from a working installation and then send that file to someone else to UNZIP on their computer then that would be within the SimSig licence, providing of course that the sim in question had at some point been released officially.

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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 24/04/2012 at 17:20 #31775
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What the quote appears to be getting at is that whilst it would not be allowed to sell a copy to anyone, to transfer it for no profit would be permitted.

The way I would read it is that if a person wanted to ZIP the files from a working installation and then send that file to someone else to UNZIP on their computer then that would be within the SimSig licence, providing of course that the sim in question had at some point been released officially.
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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 24/04/2012 at 17:50 #31779
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Yes, however that's Clive's manual for Euston, not Geoff's manual for Liverpool Street, you can't just take a licence from one piece of software and apply it to another.
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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 24/04/2012 at 18:51 #31784
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Yes, however that's Clive's manual for Euston, not Geoff's manual for Liverpool Street, you can't just take a licence from one piece of software and apply it to another.
hence why im posting it, to have it clarified by Geoff or Clive.. it does state SimSig, not Euston aswell

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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 24/04/2012 at 19:00 #31785
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1.1 You are permitted for personal, non-commercial uses only to:

a) load the software into and use it on separate computers which are under your control;

b) transfer the Software (complete with all its associated documentation) and the benefit of this Agreement to another person provided he has agreed to accept the terms of this Agreement and you contemporaneously transfer all copies of the Software you have made to that person or destroy all copies not transferred. If any transferee does not accept such terms then this Agreement shall automatically terminate. The transferor does not retain any rights under this Agreement in respect of the transferred Software.
That to me implies that any Publicly released sim can be distributed as long as payment is not levied between the parties. I never received an official response to this when this question was last brought up.

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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 24/04/2012 at 19:08 #31789
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Yes, however that's Clive's manual for Euston, not Geoff's manual for Liverpool Street, you can't just take a licence from one piece of software and apply it to another.
hence why im posting it, to have it clarified by Geoff or Clive.. it does state SimSig, not Euston aswell
But it's the licence that comes with Euston, not with Liverpool Street or other older sims.

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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 24/04/2012 at 19:10 #31790
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1.1 You are permitted for personal, non-commercial uses only to:

a) load the software into and use it on separate computers which are under your control;

b) transfer the Software (complete with all its associated documentation) and the benefit of this Agreement to another person provided he has agreed to accept the terms of this Agreement and you contemporaneously transfer all copies of the Software you have made to that person or destroy all copies not transferred. If any transferee does not accept such terms then this Agreement shall automatically terminate. The transferor does not retain any rights under this Agreement in respect of the transferred Software.
That to me implies that any Publicly released sim can be distributed as long as payment is not levied between the parties. I never received an official response to this when this question was last brought up.
Not sure how you've come to that implication, that's what the old licence implied, this one says that you can transfer it to someone else so long as the originator destroys the original, it makes no mention of payment.

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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 24/04/2012 at 19:30 #31791
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Seems we are in danger of going round in the circles Geoff alluded to earlier.

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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 24/04/2012 at 21:48 #31793
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It would be better I think to let Geoff come back with an answer as he may put the Liverpool Street sim in to a downlaoder package that all can enjoy on windows 64 bit pc's in the next couple of days.......
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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 28/04/2012 at 16:52 #31916
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I'm going to need some more time on this - unless somebody sends me a zip with the exe and timetables, I can check it and upload it. I was going to release the latest version as a beta but it has too many bugs to be playable.
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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 28/04/2012 at 16:59 #31918
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Geoff, I have it on an old computer (as with all the other original paged sims).

If nobody else can find it easily, I will dig it out for you later.

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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 28/04/2012 at 22:05 #31932
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I'm going to need some more time on this - unless somebody sends me a zip with the exe and timetables, I can check it and upload it. I was going to release the latest version as a beta but it has too many bugs to be playable.
I've sent the original .zip download to Geoff and can follow it with the .exe and TTs if Geoff needs them. Should now all be in hand.

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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 28/04/2012 at 22:13 #31933
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The ZIP won't work because the setup file contained within it is 16-bit.

I have the ZIP easily to hand, but cannot install the programme to get the exe needed out!

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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 28/04/2012 at 22:32 #31934
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To avoid any further aggravation, .zip of extracted .exe and .wtt now sent to Geoff. At the risk of repeating myself, should now all be in hand.
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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 28/04/2012 at 22:40 #31935
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I wasn't trying to aggravate anyone - just I tried that myself!
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Re: 64 bit Liverpool Street 28/04/2012 at 22:52 #31938
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Now in the download area (old simulations). Note that it is simply a repackage; the simulation itself is still very old. Thanks to Postal and others.
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