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The siding bit at Stratford NLL

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The siding bit at Stratford NLL 13/09/2012 at 00:07 #35602
Underwood
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Hello all,

Can anyone tell me what the sidings, the ones that run off of the platforms at the newer Stratford High Level (North London Line terminus), are called please? I can't find it in the on line sectional appendix as that is 2009 which shows the Low Level platforms, and my quail is not up to date either. Is there a name for this like stabling point or Stratford sidings, or maybe an actual name from something nearby?


Cheers,

James.

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The siding bit at Stratford NLL 13/09/2012 at 14:51 #35605
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" said:
I can't find it in the on line sectional appendix as that is 2009 which shows the Low Level platforms,
Since July or so, Network Rail have published a complete and up-to-date edition of the Sectional Appendix, available here.

Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick.
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The siding bit at Stratford NLL 14/09/2012 at 07:20 #35616
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As far as I know there are no sidings. What piece(s) of track are you referring to ?
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The siding bit at Stratford NLL 14/09/2012 at 10:09 #35620
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There does appear to be a short siding off the end of platform 1 which, on Google maps, looks to be long enough to stable one CL.378 unit. No name specified though.


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The siding bit at Stratford NLL 14/09/2012 at 11:48 #35621
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Didn't know it was updated, thank you for that Jan.

Matt, as John points out in the picture, I couldn't see a name but there is a siding to the north of the station, I have seen a top of a 378 there before too but as it is blocked by a fence, I didn't know if there were 2 tracks or not.

Just wondered if there was a name, but it is not in the WTT either so would simply be an un-timed shunt forward. One unit stables here overnight, and there might be one sitting there as a hot spare too, but not been there on a weekday recently to see if there is one parked there all day.


Cheers,

James.

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The siding bit at Stratford NLL 15/09/2012 at 18:26 #35633
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It is basically the platform. There are no signals on the workstation allowing a move past the 'usable limit'. I dont have any reference documents to hand but as far as I know there are buffer stops on both lines.

In fact...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rayb_uk/4351264464/

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The siding bit at Stratford NLL 15/09/2012 at 20:04 #35634
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I was confused by the photo pictured above - how could the photographer take a picture of the buffers of platform one from that angle without standing on the 'siding bit'?
Adding to this, I have seen a train stabled in the siding from my visit to the Paralympics (4 September), while walking over the bridge. In the time taken between this and walking round through the station entrance, through the underpass and onto the platform - it departed, so it is used for service trains - so not just a cripple siding.
The photo below (credit: Google Maps) has the platform two (what is actually in the picture) buffer stop circled and the photographers position on platform 12 circled also.
I guess that the procedures for the use of this siding would be a normal double docking, for I can see no ground signal in the satellite image.

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The siding bit at Stratford NLL 16/10/2012 at 09:37 #36554
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There is no signal along the length of the platforms through to either buffer-stops.

As far as I know, both platforms can fit approximately 6 coaches of 378-stock.

When LOROL ran 3-car 378's, Platform 1 used to have an 'S' car stop mark halfway along the platform. This effectively acted as a 'Stop' board, and drivers needed the signaller's permission to draw passed this towards the end of the platform. Drivers told me when I was at Stratford (North London Line) that there was a second stop board of some kind that they needed permission to pass to go beyond the platform limits towards the buffers. Platform 2 didn't have an 'S' car mark, so trains always drew down towards the buffers as a matter of course, and you were able to fit a second 3-car on top using the calling on route from the home signal.

Now LOROL run 4-car trains, no 378's can double-stack in this platform. I believe that platform 1 has a moved 'S' car stop mark to allow 4-cars to be closest to the signal. When a driver has permission from the signaller, they can pass this mark and head towards the buffer-stops, which are passed the end of the platform, as can be seen from the ariel picture guidomcc has posted above. The buffers for platform 2 don't even appear on said ariel picture!

I *think* they have extended the length of the track in platform 1 beyond the platform limits to accomodate a 4-car train beyond the moved 'S' car mark, but I am not sure.

Last edited: 16/10/2012 at 09:43 by mfcooper
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