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| A4 Reunion 08/11/2012 at 13:06 #37329 | |
AndyG
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Dwight D Eisenhower returns to York for reunion. BBC News item. NRM Mallard 75 I can only help one person a day. Today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. Last edited: 08/11/2012 at 13:11 by AndyG Reason: extra link Log in to reply |
| A4 Reunion 08/11/2012 at 13:25 #37330 | |
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Tallington
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Yes - and no! If you read the bottom paragraph - Another of Mallard's sister locomotives, Dominion of Canada, is being repainted at the NRM's site in Shildon, County Durham. The pair are actually already at Locomotion - the NRM's sister site in Shildon, County Durham and are on display while being stripped and cleaned. We went to see them last Sunday. The museum is really good with lots of stock on view. Regards, Ken Log in to reply |
| A4 Reunion 08/11/2012 at 14:19 #37332 | |
postal
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Ken According to the north-east-discussion group on Yahoo!, No 8 was on a low-loader ready for road transport to York at 16:00 on Monday. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| A4 Reunion 08/11/2012 at 14:29 #37333 | |
jc92
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" said:Keni shall report back saturday evening on this. saturday is the L&Ys monthly demonstration, and the layout backs onto yorks main workshop, i'll see whats going on where if i can "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| A4 Reunion 08/11/2012 at 17:40 #37338 | |
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Danny252
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I rather unexpectedly came across a picture of 60008 in transit the other day: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=405696 Interesting that the loco is covered, but the tender isn't! Log in to reply |
| A4 Reunion 08/11/2012 at 17:57 #37339 | |
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Signalhunter
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" said:" said:Yes, we will. :lol:Keni shall report back saturday evening on this. saturday is the L&Ys monthly demonstration, and the layout backs onto yorks main workshop, i'll see whats going on where if i can Log in to reply The following user said thank you: jc92 |
| A4 Reunion 08/11/2012 at 20:36 #37340 | |
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Tallington
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From what has been reported I may stand corrected! Here they are side by side at Shildon on Sunday - the headplates may tell the forthcoming situation! Ken  
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| A4 Reunion 09/11/2012 at 09:31 #37352 | |
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GoochyB
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The NRM posted a photo on their Facebook page earlier this week (Wednesday?) of no 8 outside the workshops at NRM York
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| A4 Reunion 10/11/2012 at 09:10 #37379 | |
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Signalhunter
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There's a photograph, in Steam Railway, of 8,9 & 10 lined up, in sequence.
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| A4 Reunion 10/11/2012 at 10:20 #37380 | |
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Peter Jordan
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I consider the movement of these two locos. to England to be a complete waste of public money by a museum that syles itself the National RAILWAY Museum but seems only to ever put maximum effort into things to do with locomotives. Contrast this with the sad fate of Borough Market Junction signal box which has been sitting at the Museum since 1976 with little or no attention or effort put into making it a proper exhibit. All right-thinking signalling enthusiasts should be appalled at the scant regard paid by the NRM to a part of the railway that is just as important as locomotives. Their continual excuse is, 'Oh, signalling doesn't engage with the public.' Well, that is not what we find at Exeter West and is not the experience (as far as I am aware) of the folk at St. Alban's or Romsey. Peter Jordan Log in to reply |
| A4 Reunion 10/11/2012 at 12:36 #37383 | |
headshot119
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" said:I consider the movement of these two locos. to England to be a complete waste of public money by a museum that syles itself the National RAILWAY Museum but seems only to ever put maximum effort into things to do with locomotives.I'll confess that when I was first taken to the NRM when I was much younger, my favorite part of the visit was playing with the mechanical demonstration frame they had in the children's section. On return visits it was usually our first and last stop. And look where it's led me 
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| A4 Reunion 10/11/2012 at 20:02 #37394 | |
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jc92
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" said:Peter i do agree RE: Borough market Jcn, however i dont think you've considered the signalling school which operates once a month (today in fact, ive just come back now). it also operates NRM central upstairs allowing hands on experience which seems to appeal greatly on a family level, the public most definetely DO find signalling engaging, at least when they can see it in motion, and perhaps try themselves. I can assure you our department manager is not anti signalling, himself being an ex bobby, and authority has been received to progress with several exciting new signalling projects, all of which are practical hands on. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Signalhunter |
| A4 Reunion 11/11/2012 at 06:59 #37426 | |
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Peter Jordan
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I am aware of the ex-LYR signalling school layout, but discount this for a number of reasons. Firstly, because it is only operated occasionally the majority of visitors to the NRM derive little or no benefit from it in terms of learning about signalling. Secondly, it is unrealistic in that it combines real signalling equipment with models, so is unprototypical in that respect. To contrast it with Exeter West, that is operational each time Crewe Heritage Centre is open, so (presumably) every visitor derives the benefit of seeing real signalling equipment being operated realistically and in a 'real time' scenario with the added benefit of people there who can explain to them what is going on and, if so desired, can assist them to 'have a go' themselves. I'm not sure what you mean by 'NRM Central' so perhaps you could explain further. However, I do recall some 'hands on' signalling displays the last time I was there, one of which was broken. Another was a display designed to teach the principle of 'absolute block' but as I watched some youngsters operating it it soon became apparent that one group was passing on the 'trick' to make it work to the next, and so its educational value was completely negated. Peter Jordan Log in to reply |
| A4 Reunion 11/11/2012 at 10:19 #37433 | |
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jc92
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" said:it is unrealistic in that it combines real signalling equipment with models, so is unprototypical in that respect.Exeter west in unrealistic in the sense there are no trains only track circuit lights!. at least on the layout ,people can practically see signalling in action, and indeed the bigger picture outside of one box, for instance they can see why box B is refusing a train from box A rather than being stuck in box A only. all the block instruments and repeaters are full size aswell, as are the box diagrams. I fail to understand how you can discount a layout designed to teach signalling practice as not worthy of use. " said: I am aware of the ex-LYR signalling school layout, but discount this for a number of reasons. Firstly, because it is only operated occasionally the majority of visitors to the NRM derive little or no benefit from it in terms of learning about signalling. The trouble is having sufficient competent experienced staff to operate/maintain the layout to suitable standards to operate more regularly. we have around 16 members, but not all at one time. I find your comment offensive if im honest, we all give up our spare time and effort to do this, and indeed the layout is still used my private groups for training purposes (a block class use it, and signalman from the cotswolds recieved some practical AB training on the layout recently. " said: NRM central is our full size AB simuator. it is a basic signalbox interior with a 15 lever frame, full block shelf with repeaters and indicators, two block instruments and an illuminated diagram. on an operational day, two members operate the simulator, one to instruct/operate the front of house side, the other controls the simulators other boxes. trains ar represented by the occupation of track circuit lights across the diagram, and everything is done properly. in addition Lever 4 operates a full size semaphore signal next to the box. we invite anyone and everyone to have a go and do get a wide age range participating. NRM central isnt restricted to one day a month, and could potentially be expanded to be operated more often. we shall see. " said: Even i dont understand that display! "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Signalhunter |
| A4 Reunion 11/11/2012 at 13:58 #37437 | |
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Peter Jordan
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I'm sorry if you found any of my remarks offensive - they certainly weren't intended to be. And having been practically involved with railway preservation since the early 1970's, having worked as a volunteer on three railways, having founded and become Chairman of the 'Exeter West Group' in 1982, and with hardly a day going by when I don't do something related to the project, I am well aware of the effort and committment put into projects by volunteers. But the incontrovertible fact remains that, because it is only operated on an occasional basis, the majority of visitors to the NRM derive little or no benefit from the L&Y display. Yes, Exeter West does have its unrealistic aspects, but it operates full-size signals in surroundings of a full-size railway site and shows visitors the real detail of what they may have wondered about as they stood on a station platform and watched a shadowy figure moving about in a building they can see down the line, and from where the sound of bells ringing can occasionally be heard. 'NRM Central' sounds like the display that wasn't working when I visited, and if even people who work at the Museum can't understand the 'Absolute Block' display then what hope does the average visitor have? The fact that one of our major national museums is prepared to fund a short-lived 'steam locomotive beanfeast' when they cannot find the resources to properly restore and display a signal box that has been in their possession for nine years longer than the time since a group of 'amateurs' took on a task many people told them was 'impossible' (i.e. removing, rebuilding and restoring Exeter West) is a disgrace. Peter Jordan Log in to reply |
| A4 Reunion 11/11/2012 at 20:19 #37441 | |
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postal
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Anyway, what's the latest on the A4 re-union?
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