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Quiz-time 09/05/2013 at 21:07 #44493
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Hehe
and: The first railway to use colour-light signals?
and another: At this station, the trains go West and East although they are heading North and South and, the trains go North and South although they are heading East and West?
The platforms, at this UK station, point North and South as well as West and East. The N and S platforms lead to trains going E and W; the W and E platforms lead to trains going N and S.
One person has got an answer, sofar.
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Quiz-time 09/05/2013 at 21:14 #44494
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I have a question if I may:

Can you name stations in the UK that are operated by a TOC even though none of their services use that station?

I'll get the ball rolling: Burton-upon-Trent. Owned by EMT but only served by XC
DO the Network Rail owned/managed stations count, as NR is not a TOC :p
WELL if you want to be technical, NR do operate some trains (mainly maintenance) so...I dunno depends how pedantic you want to be!
Network Rail have Man Picc and and the dispatchers are Northern Rail, Virgin and the Carlisle Group.
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Quiz-time 09/05/2013 at 21:17 #44495
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I have a question if I may:

Can you name stations in the UK that are operated by a TOC even though none of their services use that station?

I'll get the ball rolling: Burton-upon-Trent. Owned by EMT but only served by XC
DO the Network Rail owned/managed stations count, as NR is not a TOC :p
WELL if you want to be technical, NR do operate some trains (mainly maintenance) so...I dunno depends how pedantic you want to be!
Network Rail have Man Picc and and the dispatchers are Northern Rail, Virgin and the Carlisle Group.
And just remind me, since when where Network Rail a TOC, or for that matter Carlisle group?
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Quiz-time 09/05/2013 at 21:35 #44497
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210 posts 		I was just stating a fact. NR do operate trains and Carlisle are hired by certain TOC's :pinch:
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 00:17 #44507
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…Does this happen anywhere else, for example what do Waterloo-Waterloo trains display on the board at London?…
Although they don’t run any more, the announcements for the morning London Bridge-London Bridge via Crystal Palace services used to say: “Calling at: New Cross Gate, … Queen’s Road Peckham, South Bermondsey, and <BLANK>”, with just the ‘London Bridge’ part of the announcement cut off. The screens always used to display the destination as ‘London Bridge’, however.
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 07:50 #44513
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what do Waterloo-Waterloo trains display on the board at London?
I think in the clock-wise direction trains are displayed as Strawberry Hill.

Not sure about anti-clock, though.
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 07:58 #44514
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I was just stating a fact. NR do operate trains and Carlisle are hired by certain TOC's :pinch:

Network Rail don't operate any trains. Engineering trains, track recording trains and similar creations are operated by various FOCs with Network Rail as the customer.
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 09:04 #44515
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I was just stating a fact. NR do operate trains and Carlisle are hired by certain TOC's :pinch:

Network Rail don't operate any trains. Engineering trains, track recording trains and similar creations are operated by various FOCs with Network Rail as the customer.
I believe that the NMT and various other yellow liveried trains are operated by DRS when needed, but I could be wrong
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 10:15 #44517
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696 posts 		Nearly right! DB Schenker operate the yellow trains currently.
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 11:18 #44520
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Nearly right! DB Schenker operate the yellow trains currently.
I assume that only relates to the Peds, 97s and the banana (Ie Fully Yellow owned), not to the DRS 37 worked test trains, or officers specials?
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 11:34 #44521
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696 posts 		I don't know, to be honest! I thought DBS had the bulk of the work. The main point is that Network Rail don't (and can't) run any themselves!
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 16:30 #44532
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329 posts 		Indeed, NR is forbidden from directly operating any train by the terms of its Network Licence.
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 17:07 #44536
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128 posts 		Just a quick one

Routes on which more than 1 TOC can be used to go from 1 station to the next (must follow the same line)

I'll start it off

Sheffield - Manchester (Via hope valley) served by EMT, FTPE and Northern
Derby - Sheffield served by EMT, XC and 1 Northern Service
Derby - Nottingham served by EMT and XC

I could go on but I'll let you name a few
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 17:44 #44542
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696 posts 		Could go on a bit ;-) . Melton - Oakham - Stamford - Peterborough for a slightly obscure one.
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 19:31 #44553
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5360 posts 		Peterborough - Grantham
Doncaster-York
York - Northallerton (or is it Thirsk first)
Berwick-upon-Tweed - Dunbar
Edinburgh - Haymarket
Cupar - Leuchars - Dundee
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 19:43 #44555
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128 posts 		I'll do a few more :)

Kings Cross - Peterborough operated by FCC and East Coast
Norwich - Ely operated by Greater Anglia and EMT
Sheffield - Leeds (via Moorthorpe)operated by XC, Northern and a limited service from EMT
Sheffield - Doncaster operated by FTPE, Northern, XC and a limited service by EMT
Birmingham New Street - University operated by London Midland and XC
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 19:51 #44559
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I'll do a few more :)

Kings Cross - Peterborough operated by FCC and East Coast
Norwich - Ely operated by Greater Anglia and EMT
Sheffield - Leeds (via Moorthorpe)operated by XC, Northern and a limited service from EMT
Sheffield - Doncaster operated by FTPE, Northern, XC and a limited service by EMT
Birmingham New Street - University operated by London Midland and XC
Some of them fail the "next station" test.

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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 19:52 #44560
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I'll do a few more :)

Kings Cross - Peterborough operated by FCC and East Coast
Norwich - Ely operated by Greater Anglia and EMT
Sheffield - Leeds (via Moorthorpe)operated by XC, Northern and a limited service from EMT
Sheffield - Doncaster operated by FTPE, Northern, XC and a limited service by EMT
Birmingham New Street - University operated by London Midland and XC
Some of them fail the "next station" test.

Peter
What I meant by next station was from station a to station b using the same route
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 20:07 #44567
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I'll do a few more :)

Kings Cross - Peterborough operated by FCC and East Coast
Norwich - Ely operated by Greater Anglia and EMT
Sheffield - Leeds (via Moorthorpe)operated by XC, Northern and a limited service from EMT
Sheffield - Doncaster operated by FTPE, Northern, XC and a limited service by EMT
Birmingham New Street - University operated by London Midland and XC
Some of them fail the "next station" test.

Peter
What I meant by next station was from station a to station b using the same route
On that basis -

Glasgow Central and London Euston (Virgin and ScotRail)
Fort William and Mallaig (ScotRail and West Coast Railway Co)
Grosmont and Whitby (Northern and West Coast Railway Co/NYMR)
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 20:13 #44568
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5360 posts 		" said:
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I'll do a few more :)

Kings Cross - Peterborough operated by FCC and East Coast
Norwich - Ely operated by Greater Anglia and EMT
Sheffield - Leeds (via Moorthorpe)operated by XC, Northern and a limited service from EMT
Sheffield - Doncaster operated by FTPE, Northern, XC and a limited service by EMT
Birmingham New Street - University operated by London Midland and XC
Some of them fail the "next station" test.

Peter
What I meant by next station was from station a to station b using the same route
That does not seem to be as testing as between adjacent stations with different TOCS.

Peter
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 20:52 #44571
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126 posts 		Sheffield - Chesterfield - Derby
York - Leeds
Scarborough - Seamer
Leeds - Wakefield Westgate
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 21:04 #44573
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Online 		Manchester Piccadilly- Manchester Oxford Road (Northern, TransPennine, East Midlands, Arriva Trains Wales).

If we're allowing A to B on same route with no intermediate stop:

Manchester Piccadilly- Stockport (Cross Country, TransPennine, East Midlands, Arriva Trains Wales, Virgin Trains, Northern)
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Quiz-time 10/05/2013 at 21:53 #44575
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509 posts 		New Cross Gate-Crystal Palace or West Croydon (Southern and London Overground)
Redhill-Reigate (Southern and First Great Western)
Clapham Junction-Shepherd’s Bush (Southern and London Overground)
Leighton Buzzard-Milton Keynes Central (Southern and London Midland) – No doubt there are other short segments along this stretch too where adjacent stations are called at by two different operators.
Ebbsfleet International-Ashford International (Eurostar and Southeastern).
Habrough-Barnetby (East Midlands Trains, First TransPennine Express and Northern (on Saturdays)).
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