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Help 08/11/2013 at 12:58 #51026
phil_price479
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Hello All,

As I saw there was a new version of KX, I decided to wipe my computer clear of all SimSig software and start again. I firstly downloaded the system files, then the new KX software. However there doesnt seem to be an exe file or anywhere to boot up the simulator.
Would appriciate any help.

THANKS!

PHIL PRICE

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Help 08/11/2013 at 13:04 #51027
peterb
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You should have a program called 'Simsig Loader'. Updated sims such as KX can be opened through this loader.

Also, there is no need to delete software/files before updating as any updates will simply overwrite them.

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Help 08/11/2013 at 13:34 #51028
Peter Bennet
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Probably best to have a look at this page.

and for completness this page.

Peter

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Last edited: 08/11/2013 at 13:35 by Peter Bennet
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Help 08/11/2013 at 13:42 #51029
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And for why SimSig is moving away from *.exe files, see here.
Last edited: 08/11/2013 at 13:44 by mfcooper
Reason: typo

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Help 08/11/2013 at 20:35 #51070
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All fixed now thankyou!

I start my new job here as a signaller in the new year, so this will come in handy now that its been updated!
Just a small shame that the heartford loop wasnt put under a seperate signaller, and there are some panel cross over points that are wrong

Good effort tho!

PHIL PRICE

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Help 08/11/2013 at 20:46 #51072
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" said:
All fixed now thankyou!

I start my new job here as a signaller in the new year, so this will come in handy now that its been updated!
Just a small shame that the heartford loop wasnt put under a seperate signaller, and there are some panel cross over points that are wrong

Good effort tho!

PHIL PRICE
I'm sure Geoff would be pleased to receive any input from you to correct any errors.

Peter

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Help 08/11/2013 at 22:50 #51093
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" said:
All fixed now thankyou!

I start my new job here as a signaller in the new year, so this will come in handy now that its been updated!
Just a small shame that the Hertford loop wasnt put under a seperate signaller, and there are some panel cross over points that are wrong

Good effort tho!

PHIL PRICE
I'm sure Geoff would be pleased to receive any input from you to correct any errors.

Peter
He sure would. Kings Cross is having further changes. Geoff was after the details incurred in the Hertford Loop area,

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Help 09/11/2013 at 00:02 #51097
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Is there plans for a 1970's version where The Moorgate lines went via Kings Cross York Road and Farringdon?
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Help 09/11/2013 at 13:38 #51152
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- Panel 1 (Cross) control and operate K321 & K323
- Panel 3 (Palace) control and operate up to K835 and from K840
- Panel 4 (Welyn) control and operate K637 & K639 and from K650 & K652
- Panel 5 (Hitchin) control from K1969 and ro K1968
- Panel 5 (Hitchin) also control Biggleswade & Royston stations
- Westcad WS control HF LOOP from palmers green to langley south juncion.

The sidings at Watton at Stone are non existant on the real KX panel

Last edited: 09/11/2013 at 13:52 by phil_price479
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Help 09/11/2013 at 15:28 #51164
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Also a couple of signals present on modern mode that no longer exist - K446 and K406 both on Up Slow 2 between Alexandra Palace and Finsbury Park. Also K419 on Up Slow 2 controlling movenments into Hornsey EMUD or over flyover is in reality a ground position light numbered K83.

Many thanks for refreshing this sim though, your hard work is very much appreciated!

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Help 09/11/2013 at 15:37 #51165
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" said:
- Panel 1 (Cross) control and operate K321 & K323
- Panel 3 (Palace) control and operate up to K835 and from K840
- Panel 4 (Welyn) control and operate K637 & K639 and from K650 & K652
- Panel 5 (Hitchin) control from K1969 and ro K1968
- Panel 5 (Hitchin) also control Biggleswade & Royston stations
- Westcad WS control HF LOOP from palmers green to langley south juncion.

The sidings at Watton at Stone are non existant on the real KX panel
" said:

Workstation Boundaries
"These may not match the panel exactly but give a fairly even distribution of workload for each operator. ....
"

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Help 09/11/2013 at 18:52 #51175
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But isnt the concept of a simulator to try and be as realistic as possible?
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Help 09/11/2013 at 19:10 #51176
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" said:
" said:
All fixed now thankyou!

I start my new job here as a signaller in the new year, so this will come in handy now that its been updated!
Just a small shame that the heartford loop wasnt put under a seperate signaller, and there are some panel cross over points that are wrong

Good effort tho!

PHIL PRICE
I'm sure Geoff would be pleased to receive any input from you to correct any errors.

Peter
So Peter first suggests he could give some input to assist in making the sim more accurate.

" said:
" said:
- Panel 1 (Cross) control and operate K321 & K323
- Panel 3 (Palace) control and operate up to K835 and from K840
- Panel 4 (Welyn) control and operate K637 & K639 and from K650 & K652
- Panel 5 (Hitchin) control from K1969 and ro K1968
- Panel 5 (Hitchin) also control Biggleswade & Royston stations
- Westcad WS control HF LOOP from palmers green to langley south juncion.

The sidings at Watton at Stone are non existant on the real KX panel
" said:

Workstation Boundaries
"These may not match the panel exactly but give a fairly even distribution of workload for each operator. ....
"
Then you post that :S

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Help 09/11/2013 at 19:12 #51177
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" said:
" said:
" said:
All fixed now thankyou!

I start my new job here as a signaller in the new year, so this will come in handy now that its been updated!
Just a small shame that the heartford loop wasnt put under a seperate signaller, and there are some panel cross over points that are wrong

Good effort tho!

PHIL PRICE
I'm sure Geoff would be pleased to receive any input from you to correct any errors.

Peter
So Peter first suggests he could give some input to assist in making the sim more accurate.

" said:
" said:
- Panel 1 (Cross) control and operate K321 & K323
- Panel 3 (Palace) control and operate up to K835 and from K840
- Panel 4 (Welyn) control and operate K637 & K639 and from K650 & K652
- Panel 5 (Hitchin) control from K1969 and ro K1968
- Panel 5 (Hitchin) also control Biggleswade & Royston stations
- Westcad WS control HF LOOP from palmers green to langley south juncion.

The sidings at Watton at Stone are non existant on the real KX panel
" said:

Workstation Boundaries
"These may not match the panel exactly but give a fairly even distribution of workload for each operator. ....
"
Then you post that :S
I was a bit miffed aswell to be honest. Simulators are supposed to mimic real life as much as possible.

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Help 09/11/2013 at 19:31 #51178
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phil_price479 said:
- Panel 5 (Hitchin) also control Biggleswade & Royston stations
The lack of Biggleswade and Royston is down to the fact that the whole area couldn't be fitted into 6 screens (Kings Cross was written before the Scrolly format came along). Since then, Peterborough was written which was extended to include Biggleswade, and Cambridge was extended to include Royston. Personally, I think the simulation boundary should stay as it is- changing it would break every TT written on all three simulations.

I agree with you on all the other points though.

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Help 09/11/2013 at 19:38 #51179
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Actually, it might be doable with only breaking timetables on King's Cross, as that'd be the only one extended.
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