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Renationalisation 24/02/2014 at 19:31 #56149
Stephen Fulcher
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They kept this one quiet, even if it is a reclassification on a technicality.

http://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2013/12/17-network-rail-is-nationalised-by.html

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Renationalisation 24/02/2014 at 20:33 #56154
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It's driven by European interference: as always.

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Renationalisation 24/02/2014 at 21:00 #56157
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They kept this one quiet, even if it is a reclassification on a technicality.

http://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2013/12/17-network-rail-is-nationalised-by.html
Apart from this article in a specialised publication, all of the broadsheets also reported it on the same date (17/12/2013) following the release of the Office of National Statistics report which can be read here. I wouldn't really classify that as keeping it quiet.

I also reckon I would prefer a bit of European interference if it forces HMG and HM Treasury into the open about all the devious PFI type initiatives which are driving up the cost of "public" investments so that more money can accrue for financial sector bonuses.

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Renationalisation 25/02/2014 at 01:00 #56173
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I also reckon I would prefer a bit of European interference if it forces HMG and HM Treasury into the open about all the devious PFI type initiatives which are driving up the cost of "public" investments so that more money can accrue for financial sector bonuses.
Ah, but this is a railway forum, ergo the EU must be a bad thing! At least, that seems to be the rule that everyone else follows.

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Renationalisation 25/02/2014 at 08:18 #56179
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I must confess to not reading newspapers John, but I do look on the BBC News site several times a day and there is no reference I can find on there, and Network Rail did not inform their own staff either (certainly not in this area).

EU interference is never a good thing, they are part of the cause of the railways current structure with vertical separation in the first place, and this latest reclassification does seem more of a technicality than a major change, even Bob Crow has not made an issue of it.

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Renationalisation 25/02/2014 at 09:17 #56180
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Network Rail did not inform their own staff either (certainly not in this area).
There was a big article about it on Connect before Christmas - it got about 200 comments!

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Renationalisation 25/02/2014 at 15:27 #56186
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Thats one (dis)advantage to being issued with a phone that you can read your email on - very rarely log onto a computer any more.
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Renationalisation 25/02/2014 at 20:40 #56216
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Quite frankly, it's essentially a paper exercise. However, it opens the possibility of Sir Humphrey getting his paws even more deeply into the national train set... given D(a)fT's abysmal performance to date that's not a nice prospect.
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Renationalisation 25/02/2014 at 22:42 #56222
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I've not checked but I presume FOI will now apply either automatically or through the necessary amendment.

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Renationalisation 26/02/2014 at 18:14 #56249
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Good point, might have to try that, although might have to wait until September.
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Renationalisation 01/03/2014 at 20:18 #56411
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I've not checked but I presume FOI will now apply either automatically or through the necessary amendment.
See https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/esa10mgdd_reclassification_as_a#incoming-479331.

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Renationalisation 01/03/2014 at 23:25 #56424
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Yes looks like it needs a Section 4 Order to amend Schedule 1; given HMG always said they intended to place a section 5 Order but never did, I'd not hold your breath over that one.

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