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| Banbury 12/04/2014 at 19:32 #58776 | |
Andrew G
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Hot off the press. Pictures from a visit today organised by the Swindon Panel Preservation Society, courtesy of Network Rail. Those with the Marylebone simulation might find them of interest. https://www.flickr.com/photos/llangollen_signalman/sets/72157643853412823/ Log in to reply |
| Banbury 12/04/2014 at 19:53 #58778 | |
Danny252
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"Freightliner train leaves after a crew change" - given that it's an EWS locomotive hauling car carriers, that's a bit of a stretch of the "Freightliner" name, however you interpret it! I have to admit to being slightly overexcited by the care with which that brass has been polished... Log in to reply |
| Banbury 12/04/2014 at 19:59 #58779 | |
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Andrew G
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" said:"Freightliner train leaves after a crew change" - given that it's an EWS locomotive hauling car carriers, that's a bit of a stretch of the "Freightliner" name, however you interpret it!Happy to be corrected and caption updated: EWS Freight (Car Carriers) leaves after a crew change. Log in to reply |
| Banbury 12/04/2014 at 20:06 #58780 | |
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SPADmad
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to be awkward, EWS went bust, so it probably is either FLT or DBS who just dont bother to repaint the 66 :silly:
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| Banbury 12/04/2014 at 20:50 #58785 | |
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Danny252
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" said:to be awkward, EWS went bust, so it probably is either FLT or DBS who just dont bother to repaint the 66 :silly:You've lost me. Weren't EWS bought out completely by DBS, due to being a successful company that DBS wanted to invest in? What locomotives has EWS/DBS sold off to Freightliner? Log in to reply |
| Banbury 12/04/2014 at 21:24 #58787 | |
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kbarber
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That bobby waving out of North box (photo 3) looks suspiciously like John Francis (author and former IRSE president). Which might explain some of the well-kept brass... Last edited: 12/04/2014 at 21:25 by kbarber Log in to reply |
| Banbury 12/04/2014 at 21:39 #58788 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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That is exactly who it is! Half surprised he hasn't been hauled before the management for still wearing a British Rail jumper though! Log in to reply |
| Banbury 13/04/2014 at 00:26 #58793 | |
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TomOF
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His quote of the day was 'just to think, they pay me for this!'
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| Banbury 26/04/2014 at 03:07 #59576 | |
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atari001
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Nice photos. Banbury North has (what I think) is a unique feature of having a lower quadrant at BN4 then no more than 150yds up the line we get BN9 with an upper quadrant. Log in to reply |
| Banbury 26/04/2014 at 06:30 #59577 | |
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Al McLean
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BN9 was installed when colour lights were indroduced in the 1970s. Not only does Banbury North control lower & upper quadrants but has conventional colour lights and LED signals (BN47). As a matter of interest does anyone know why the frame at Banbury North faces away fom the main running lines while the frame at Banbury South faces them? Log in to reply The following user said thank you: atari001 |
| Banbury 26/04/2014 at 11:04 #59589 | |
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Danny252
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South was last reframed in 1944, whilst North was reframed in 1956, and the preference for rear frames started around the start of the 1950s. I'm mildly surprised they decided to reposition the frame in an already existing box, though - sounds like a lot of structural work would be needed.
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| Banbury 26/04/2014 at 12:13 #59594 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
2032 posts |
The new frame was installed whilst the old one was still being used.
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| Banbury 26/04/2014 at 13:27 #59596 | |
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Danny252
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" said:The new frame was installed whilst the old one was still being used.Aha, that's actually a fairly smart way to get around the problem of re-framing boxes - assuming your signalman doesn't fall down the hole in the floor at the back of the box... Log in to reply |
| Banbury 26/04/2014 at 15:04 #59600 | |
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AndyG
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That's how they did Borough Market Jn in the 1930s, a Westlinghouse 'L' replacing the old lever frame, installed at the back of the box. Must have been a bit cosy too!
I can only help one person a day. Today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. Log in to reply |
| Banbury 26/04/2014 at 16:23 #59601 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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Both frames were in there at the same time for a while - there is a picture on the wall in Truro of the same when the new frame was added in the 1970s on closure of Truro West and Penwithers Junction boxes. I would imagine the Western Region would have put the frames in the proper place (front) if it had been practical to do so, but it would take too long a closure to remove one frame and install another one in the same place. Log in to reply |
| Banbury 26/04/2014 at 19:52 #59604 | |
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Danny252
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" said:I would imagine the Western Region would have put the frames in the proper place (front) if it had been practical to do so, but it would take too long a closure to remove one frame and install another one in the same place.Well, you say that, but they went with replacing the frame in the same location at Exeter West in 1959 - with consequent chaos in the interim as the layout was worked by handsignalmen! I wonder what factors went in to deciding which way to do it. Log in to reply |
| Banbury 27/04/2014 at 06:53 #59607 | |
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Haraubrad
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With regard to Banbury North the reframing took place prior to the re- signalling due the new station design. They didn't do any underpinning. That is the reason for the tilt toward the river as the weight of the frame had no foundation support. Some hasty concrete pumping was involved to stop the box falling into the Cherwell. I think they were hand signalling for the frame change for about a fortnight. I was on the footplate at Woodford Halse at the time. First they opened the Down relief, after that the Down main closed while they worked on that, Then the Up main was slewed over to the Down main while they did the up side. Aubrey Log in to reply |