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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 06/05/2014 at 21:09 #60167
chilternman
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I have 0Z30 on the main line at Newton east jct at a stand saying it is at the buffer stops any help please.
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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 06/05/2014 at 22:01 #60173
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Sadly, it's quite difficult to work out what's happened until you describe how you got into this situation! A saved game (or maybe even two, before and after) also tend to be helpful.

However, assuming that this isn't a bug, I would hazard a guess that it's caused by asking a driver to pass a signal at danger with the points set incorrectly.

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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 06/05/2014 at 22:19 #60174
Peter Bennet
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I know what the problem is and how to fix it, but can't understand why as there was nothing "fixed" in that area.

Peter

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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 06/05/2014 at 22:21 #60175
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" said:
I know what the problem is and how to fix it, but can't understand why as there was nothing "fixed" in that area.

Peter
Assuming you're talking about there being a distinct lack of buffer stops at Newton East Jn, I seem to recall that the only difference between "Run out of valid track" and "Buffer Stops" is just a setting to change what text is shown?

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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 08/05/2014 at 09:27 #60202
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I had the same problem as Chilternman. I eventually had to remove the train, only for the same problem to arise with the following train.
Aubrey

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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 08/05/2014 at 10:00 #60203
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As I said above there is a problem that I'm fixing.

Peter

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Motherwell Sim 08/05/2014 at 16:49 #60219
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Hi you lot, I have 1M10 on the 0555 Glasgow service to London and is standing at the Newton East Junction and the driver is telling, waiting at a buffer stop ??
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Motherwell Sim 08/05/2014 at 17:04 #60221
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Looks like a duplicate of http://www.SimSig.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=127&id=37732&Itemid=0
God bless, Daniel Wilson
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Motherwell Sim 08/05/2014 at 17:07 #60222
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Yhh just seen it, thanks
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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 11/05/2014 at 15:35 #60340
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Came across this bug myself today now, and it certainly means that it's unplayable. I must question why there has not been a patch to fix this since being reported. I don't mind paying for sims, but when something like this is reported. it does annoy me (and I'm sure others as well) for it not to be fixed as a priority.

One also assumed that when the loader was introduced, it would speed up patches for a situation like this. Why has this not happened?

Lucas

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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 11/05/2014 at 15:57 #60342
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Manual has been updated with v4.2.2 being available (via Loader update.) Presumably just waiting for the appropriate buttons being pushed for the new version being available in the loader?
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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 11/05/2014 at 16:05 #60344
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What makes you think I've not been dealing with it as a priority? Equating time to fix with prioritising is not necessarily a linear equation.

Peter

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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 11/05/2014 at 16:07 #60345
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And it also appears that the same bug is present in when routing trains from Newton P2 onto the Up Hamilton.

This means that it is impossible to send any train in the up direction from Newton, making the sim completely unplayable. A test save has been included for reference.

Lucas

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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 11/05/2014 at 19:17 #60355
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What makes you think I've not been dealing with it as a priority? Equating time to fix with prioritising is not necessarily a linear equation.

Peter
Just a thought here, but why not make the older version available again. I know there are bugs within the sim, however, at least none of these are ones that put an absolute stop to playing a sim.

I don't really want to say this, but going to anyway, but if the problem isn't fixed, you may well end up with people asking for refunds as the product sold is not fit for purpose

James

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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 12/05/2014 at 06:12 #60369
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Problem was fixed quickly and a number of consequential and other issues identified and also dealt with. However, Geoff has been away these past few days and he controls the releases/reversions etc.

Peter

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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 12/05/2014 at 18:26 #60395
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" said:
Problem was fixed quickly and a number of consequential and other issues identified and also dealt with. However, Geoff has been away these past few days and he controls the releases/reversions etc.

Peter
I accept that Geoff may control releases etc, and have been away, but I'm also sure that there is a number of ways in which you could have made a patched version available to us who have been unable to play the sim for the last 7 days because of a show stopping bug.

Let me ask you a question now, but why couldn't an updated functional sim file have been uploaded via the forum for example, even if for a couple days until it could be officially re-released?

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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 12/05/2014 at 21:28 #60399
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Sorry for delay and mix up - I understand it's now available as an update 4.2 => 4.2.2 [or 4.1 => 4.2.2]

Peter

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0Z30 AT NEWTON EAST JCT 13/05/2014 at 09:10 #60404
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Thank you for the quick fix
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