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| Tran in section from Honiton 18/05/2014 at 17:43 #60673 | |
GW43125
495 posts |
It is definitely uphill! Remember once or twice coasting down from EXC to EXD then straining back up to EXC on full power!
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| Tran in section from Honiton 18/05/2014 at 17:58 #60674 | |
lazzer
605 posts |
Is this where everyone now posts their anecdotal evidence to prove it's uphill?
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| Tran in section from Honiton 18/05/2014 at 19:14 #60676 | |
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GW43125
495 posts |
" said:Is this where everyone now posts their anecdotal evidence to prove it's uphill?Point taken. I'll shut up now. Log in to reply |
| Tran in section from Honiton 19/05/2014 at 12:46 #60686 | |
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maxand
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Now that you've all run out of anecdotes, I thought I'd check to see whether the word "incline" has any uphill associations, as AndyG conjectured in an earlier post: Quote: Incline would be the correct term for an ascending track as here, as opposed to decline?The most popular definition of "incline" in this sense is: Quote: to deviate from the vertical or horizontalWell then, could "incline" also be an antonym for "decline"? No. The nearest relevant antonym is "ascent". So I doubt whether Network Rail can better this by inventing an official antonym for "decline". So I reiterate my earlier statement that "incline" is by definition ambiguous as far as direction of slope (i.e., is not a vector), and suggest once again that "INCLINE" in Exeter and other sims be replaced by "UPHILL". Even "DOWNHILL" is more meaningful than "DECLINE". In fact, the Oxford Dictionaries page gives this example of incline in a slightly different context: "He inclined his head in agreement", meaning "Bend (one’s head) forwards and downwards". I feel disinclined to discuss this matter further. Last edited: 19/05/2014 at 13:12 by maxand Log in to reply The following user said thank you: northroad |
| Tran in section from Honiton 19/05/2014 at 13:10 #60689 | |
jc92
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" said:an Incline does indeed refer to both the up and down. you either ascend an incline or descend an incline. Similar to saying Hill, Gradient, Mountain, Ramp. the label is correct as it indicates there is an incline between St Davids and Central. reference to the manual clarifies which way is up, and which is down. it is called an incline becuase thats the name. not because its implying direction, again similar to a Hill. so Exeter incline is indicating the fact there is a gradient to deal with in the exeter area. look up the Cromford and High peak railway for examples of inclines, named after the local area which have traffic both ways (mostly rope worked). From a signalling system standpoint it makes little difference as the interlocking is set to prevent unsafe uphill or downhill movements (failures excepted) without the signaller understanding which is which. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Last edited: 19/05/2014 at 13:11 by jc92 Log in to reply The following users said thank you: northroad, maxand |
| Tran in section from Honiton 19/05/2014 at 13:15 #60690 | |
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maxand
1637 posts |
Thus, even an arrow above or below "INCLINE" gives no further information about which way is uphill.
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| Tran in section from Honiton 19/05/2014 at 13:16 #60691 | |
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dwelham313
139 posts |
Perhaps we should all write to Network Rail to get them to officially rename the famous incline 'the lickey uphill' to avoid any further confusion :whistle:
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| Tran in section from Honiton 19/05/2014 at 13:31 #60692 | |
postal
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" said:Perhaps we should all write to Network Rail to get them to officially rename the famous incline 'the lickey uphill' to avoid any further confusion :whistle:But you would then be confused if you were going from Barnt Green to Bromsgrove. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply The following user said thank you: northroad |
| Tran in section from Honiton 19/05/2014 at 21:08 #60708 | |
Peter Bennet
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As someone who has walked the lanes by the Lickey taking photos I can anecdotally advise that it's definitely pretty steep both up and down. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Tran in section from Honiton 19/05/2014 at 21:43 #60710 | |
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kbarber
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" said:As someone who has walked the lanes by the Lickey taking photos I can anecdotally advise that it's definitely pretty steep both up and down. But if you're on the canal next door the bits between the locks are perfectly level 
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| Tran in section from Honiton 19/05/2014 at 21:56 #60712 | |
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Hooverman
306 posts |
" said:" said:Oh the joys of locking up or down the Tardebigge flight :-)As someone who has walked the lanes by the Lickey taking photos I can anecdotally advise that it's definitely pretty steep both up and down. Log in to reply |
| Tran in section from Honiton 20/05/2014 at 12:10 #60729 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
2028 posts |
The word could be removed entirely from the sim without any adverse effect on the way it works, and in any case it is not shown as anything other than normal track on the real panel, no mention of inclines there.
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| Tran in section from Honiton 20/05/2014 at 14:17 #60734 | |
northroad
870 posts |
I don't know why we don't use the old fashion term of gradient.
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