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HST powercar signalled as a class 5? 27/05/2014 at 18:30 #60997
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hi all,

I noticed todays STP Powercar move was headcoded 5Z76: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O01913/2014/05/27/advanced

question for the learned - why was it signalled Class 5 and not class 0?

"We don't stop camborne wednesdays"
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HST powercar signalled as a class 5? 27/05/2014 at 18:39 #60998
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" said:
hi all,

I noticed todays STP Powercar move was headcoded 5Z76: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O01913/2014/05/27/advanced

question for the learned - why was it signalled Class 5 and not class 0?
I passed that at Exeter. One of our drivers was stood there waving at me , having just brought it in. Couldn't tell you why it's a class 5 though. I've driven back-to-back power cars on the mainline before, and they were definitely class 0.

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HST powercar signalled as a class 5? 27/05/2014 at 18:40 #60999
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Perhaps it was originally booked to actually have coaches.


That's because this was the actual path http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O01890/2014/05/27/advanced

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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HST powercar signalled as a class 5? 27/05/2014 at 18:48 #61000
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There was a 5Z76 Newton Abbott-Exeter as well - which was entirely separate.
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HST powercar signalled as a class 5? 27/05/2014 at 18:48 #61001
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The actual move was 0Z74, forming the 13.28 Laira to Bristol SPM. Can only assume that 5Z76 was a ECS of some description.
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HST powercar signalled as a class 5? 27/05/2014 at 18:51 #61002
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" said:
Perhaps it was originally booked to actually have coaches.


That's because this was the actual path http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O01890/2014/05/27/advanced
D'oh! thanks must have missed that one.

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HST powercar signalled as a class 5? 27/05/2014 at 19:26 #61004
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If our Light Loco movements are anything to go by, the brakes would have been rubbish?

Our locomotives break much better if they actually have a load behind them...

Sorry guys, I am in the business of making people wait!
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HST powercar signalled as a class 5? 27/05/2014 at 20:31 #61007
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Our locomotives brake much better if they actually have a load behind them...
...And also accelerate much, much slower!

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HST powercar signalled as a class 5? 27/05/2014 at 22:18 #61011
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If our Light Loco movements are anything to go by, the brakes would have been rubbish?

Our locomotives break much better if they actually have a load behind them...

Isn't that just some tenet that is going away with new locos? When I look at some of them (photo of a Taurus, photo of a cl. 151 loco), they have more than 150 braking percent which is more than what most coaches have, except for coaches with a magnetic brake.

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HST powercar signalled as a class 5? 28/05/2014 at 17:09 #61030
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Our locomotives brake much better if they actually have a load behind them...
...And also accelerate much, much slower!
Re the brakes: you'd think, wouldn't you, but I can assure you that the brakes on a single power car as very good, so long as you give it a good dig. As for the acceleration ....... :blink:

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HST powercar signalled as a class 5? 28/05/2014 at 18:46 #61034
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Goes to show, different train, different behaviour. As part of our assesment runs we did periodically during OJT, and again when being certified as Drivers on the SA's (ex BR Mark 2 coaches in push/pull with a locomotive), we had to do Light Engine runs to get used to how they behaved, and they could be very scary if you didn't pay them enough respect. A little brake a long way out I found was best...
Sorry guys, I am in the business of making people wait!
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HST powercar signalled as a class 5? 29/05/2014 at 09:11 #61044
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Our locomotives brake much better if they actually have a load behind them...
...And also accelerate much, much slower!
Re the brakes: you'd think, wouldn't you, but I can assure you that the brakes on a single power car as very good, so long as you give it a good dig. As for the acceleration ....... :blink:

A class 87 running light engine could be quite lively too... :woohoo:

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