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Comments & Queries 25/06/2014 at 17:39 #62029
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If you have any questions regarding the new North East Wales simulation, please feel free to ask them here where either myself, or one of my testing team will be able to help you.
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Comments & Queries 25/06/2014 at 19:14 #62041
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The labels at Chirk aren't ideally spaced - it currently reads as "Chirk Tunnel Chirk", which seems a bit odd! There's plenty of room to either move one label down, or have a "Tunnel-Station" label like the UWC-Tunnel label at Whitehurst.
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Comments & Queries 25/06/2014 at 19:18 #62043
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The labels at Chirk aren't ideally spaced - it currently reads as "Chirk Tunnel Chirk", which seems a bit odd! There's plenty of room to either move one label down, or have a "Tunnel-Station" label like the UWC-Tunnel label at Whitehurst.
Noted I'll see what I can do

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Comments & Queries 26/06/2014 at 20:12 #62120
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hows does the CNNF signaller know a train from Penyfford is complete? IIRC it used to be a telephone call from the guard, unless that's changed since the resignalling.

I only ask as its possible to knock out for a train before its arrived at Wrexham General. Maybe the phonecall could be added as per dunblane on Cscot?

other two minor points - theres no apparent reversing location for CN1390 or DM19, which I have identified would be required for a timetable I shall be doing at some point.

other than that, great work!

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Comments & Queries 26/06/2014 at 21:21 #62123
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The two reversing points you ask about are already available using the standard locations at which the signals are located. The project X TT covers reversing at both signals.
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Comments & Queries 26/06/2014 at 21:26 #62125
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The two reversing points you ask about are already available using the standard locations at which the signals are located. The project X TT covers reversing at both signals.
I thought Simsig standard convention was the location for a junction is the signal BEFORE the junction, not after.

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Comments & Queries 26/06/2014 at 21:37 #62126
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The two reversing points you ask about are already available using the standard locations at which the signals are located. The project X TT covers reversing at both signals.
I thought Simsig standard convention was the location for a junction is the signal BEFORE the junction, not after.
Not SimSig convention but real world convention - generally (as always, there are exceptions). Trains are timed as they pass the protecting signal for the junction in most cases. The exact location can be a little more vague when it comes to manual boxes and manual reporting though.

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Comments & Queries 26/06/2014 at 22:32 #62131
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Can anyone tell me where Dee Marsh Reception Sidings are located on the sim, if indeed they are?

Great sim by the way Karl!

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Comments & Queries 26/06/2014 at 22:41 #62132
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I'm not 100% sure myself (they're not marked thus on my Quail map), but I think either Birkenhead Sidings or Shotton Steel Works.
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Comments & Queries 26/06/2014 at 23:12 #62135
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Can anyone tell me where Dee Marsh Reception Sidings are located on the sim, if indeed they are?
Birkenhead sidings by the looks of things. my 1990 quail shows a horde of sidings, with additional connections to the mainline (prior to resignalling around 1991-3?) and post rationisation, that would be the closest match

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Comments & Queries 26/06/2014 at 23:22 #62136
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Cheers JC and Muzer, much appreciated.
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Comments & Queries 27/06/2014 at 07:32 #62145
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Dee Marsh Reception Sidings is labelled Birkenhead Sidings in the sim - if you're comparing a present day schedule for a train into Dee Marsh, then you will need to add location "Shotton Steel Works" to the end of the TT (the default 2009 TT adds 4 miunutes). Likewise for a departing train, the train will need to enter at Shotton Steel Works before it's booked departure time from Dee Marsh (the default 2009 TT has 10 minutes, with 5 minutes to run to Birkenhead Sidings, and 5 minutes to reverse).

Whether or not this is actually how the train is handled on arrival at Dee Marsh I don't know.

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Comments & Queries 27/06/2014 at 15:00 #62158
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Really nice little sim. Great to chill out with.

What's the story with Shotwick Emergency Occupation crossing?

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Comments & Queries 27/06/2014 at 15:21 #62159
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It is still there but is not in regular use "NIRU".

Effectively, it is closed, but is retained for some reason or another which I do not know the exact reason of.

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Comments & Queries 27/06/2014 at 15:34 #62160
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Thanks, I wasn't sure what NIRU meant.

The manual suggests if someone does call there, it might all be, er, kicking off!

Additionally, the manual makes no mention of the 2414 points alarms - could someone* explain the reasons for those and the way you have to deal with them? Seems I have to click them to normalise them? Or am I making that up...

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Comments & Queries 27/06/2014 at 15:55 #62161
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Additionally, the manual makes no mention of the 2414 points alarms - could someone* explain the reasons for those and the way you have to deal with them? Seems I have to click them to normalise them? Or am I making that up...
The points do not return to Normal (straight ahead) automatically, so it's a reminder for you to do it after a train uses them. It's to ensure that the points aren't left so that a runaway from the sidings could end up on the main line.

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Comments & Queries 27/06/2014 at 16:14 #62163
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I cannot get a path from dee marsh Junction to reverse PD9, nor can I get a path from Penyfford to Reverse PD9
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Comments & Queries 27/06/2014 at 16:35 #62165
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Additionally, the manual makes no mention of the 2414 points alarms - could someone* explain the reasons for those and the way you have to deal with them? Seems I have to click them to normalise them? Or am I making that up...
Point normalisation alarms

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Comments & Queries 27/06/2014 at 16:43 #62169
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My apologies. Should probably have looked a bit harder!
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Comments & Queries 27/06/2014 at 19:48 #62181
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Thanks, I wasn't sure what NIRU meant.

The manual suggests if someone does call there, it might all be, er, kicking off!

Additionally, the manual makes no mention of the 2414 points alarms - could someone* explain the reasons for those and the way you have to deal with them? Seems I have to click them to normalise them? Or am I making that up...
Shotwick Emergency Occupation crossing gives the fire service direct access with large appliances to the heart of Shotton Steel Works, Shotton Paper and some other industrial units. So yes it's only ever used when it's "kicking off"!

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Comments & Queries 27/06/2014 at 20:28 #62182
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Thanks headshot!

Maybe I should ask this elsewhere, but is this a regular occurrence on the network?

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Comments & Queries 27/06/2014 at 21:24 #62185
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Can anyone tell me where Dee Marsh Reception Sidings are located on the sim, if indeed they are?

Great sim by the way Karl! :)
They are Birkenhead sidings in the sim as Daniel has alluded to above, Birkenhead Sidings is what they are known as locally.

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I cannot get a path from dee marsh Junction to reverse PD9, nor can I get a path from Penyfford to Reverse PD9
I've added both paths into the sim, and will be included in an update.

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Thanks headshot!

Maybe I should ask this elsewhere, but is this a regular occurrence on the network?
I'm not sure to be honest. North Wales Coast has a crossing somewhere which is specifically to allow the coast guard access to the beach (only reason it's been retained) but I can't remember which one it is.

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Comments & Queries 28/06/2014 at 11:45 #62193
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Ponsandane Crossing in Penzance is the same.

It was retained purely to allow the emergency services access to the beach in the event that one of the Isle of Scilly helicopters came to grief near Penzance Heliport.

Although the heliport closed nearly two years ago and has now been replaced by a supermarket, the crossing remains. I do not know of it being actually used in years though.

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Comments & Queries 29/06/2014 at 09:56 #62230
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" said:

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I cannot get a path from dee marsh Junction to reverse PD9, nor can I get a path from Penyfford to Reverse PD9
I've added both paths into the sim, and will be included in an update.
Thanks Karl, Just picked up another. I cannot get a Valid route from C.N. goods loop to Gobowen. thanks

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Comments & Queries 29/06/2014 at 11:07 #62231
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What's the next location from Wrexham Bay Sidings?
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