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| Loader version 4.0.31.0 30/06/2014 at 06:35 #62290 | |
Haraubrad
103 posts |
Hi I try to update to the above version only to find that Norton Anti Virus says that the file is dangerous and deletes the loader. I then have to download the system files again. Any ideas? Aubrey Log in to reply |
| Loader version 4.0.31.0 30/06/2014 at 07:53 #62291 | |
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Sacro
1171 posts |
Don't use Norton? It's known to have rather suspect detection.
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| Loader version 4.0.31.0 30/06/2014 at 09:54 #62298 | |
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Haraubrad
103 posts |
Had no problems before. It allows the previous version ok. Aubrey Log in to reply |
| Loader version 4.0.31.0 30/06/2014 at 10:02 #62300 | |
headshot119
4869 posts |
You need to add an exception in Norton to allow the new version through. Not sure how you do this as I don't use Norton.
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| Loader version 4.0.31.0 30/06/2014 at 10:19 #62302 | |
onlydjw
456 posts |
If it's like other firewalls, then you'll need to add an exception for the SimSig loader, license manager, both refresher programs and any of the old exe sims individually to allow full SimSig operation to work without your firewall complaining.
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| Loader version 4.0.31.0 30/06/2014 at 11:38 #62306 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
2028 posts |
Not using Norton totally would be a bit extreme, but it is a bit of a pain when it comes to the updater. I did find a way around this on my old laptop, but cannot off the top of my head remember how. There is an option somewhere to "undo" the auto-deletion. I did raise a ticket on the issue tracker for this problem as it cannot be that uncommon. Norton is quite a common anti-virus system so I would imagine a few users will have the trouble I had. Geoff was looking into it. The problem is often down to the fact that relatively few people download and use SimSig, so the anti-virus programmes treat it as a threat because they know nothing about it. Log in to reply |
| Loader version 4.0.31.0 30/06/2014 at 17:17 #62327 | |
GeoffM
6288 posts |
Interestingly I ran a couple of different versions of the Loader through a website that checks files against 54 antivirus programs. Nothing triggered a false positive. I have a solution which is to digitally sign all the exes (only the installers are currently signed). That might keep some AV programs calmer. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| Loader version 4.0.31.0 30/06/2014 at 17:45 #62328 | |
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whitetigger
25 posts |
I also had this problem using Norton. The steps to add the exclusion are as follows (I'm using Norton Internet Security v21.3.0.12) - Load up the main screen - Click 'settings' on the top menu - Click 'Configure [+]' next to 'Items to exclude from Auto-Protect, SONAR and Download Intelligence Detection' - Click the drop down button next to 'Add' and select 'Folder' - Navigate to your Simsig folder in program files and select that one - Repeat process and add Simsig folder in Public Documents Since I added the exclusion, it hasn't complained at any files downloaded from the site. Hope this helps Matt (WT) Log in to reply |
| Loader version 4.0.31.0 30/06/2014 at 17:54 #62329 | |
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arabianights
138 posts |
" said:Interestingly I ran a couple of different versions of the Loader through a website that checks files against 54 antivirus programs. Nothing triggered a false positive.Not saying it's the case, cause I dunno which site you used, but a lot of these don't really do it, they just pretend to (or are running against McAffee for MSDOS 4 etc)! An amusing mostly related article that may be enjoyed: http://successfulsoftware.net/2007/08/16/the-software-awards-scam/ And another related article on automated virus scanning - this time by the "baddies" - they call it crypting: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/05/antivirus-is-dead-long-live-antivirus/ Dunno how the loader works but if it's using late binding on downloaded components, which it likely is, then you can see why that would set off a sufficiently paranoid heuristic... Last edited: 30/06/2014 at 17:57 by arabianights Log in to reply |
| Loader version 4.0.31.0 30/06/2014 at 19:48 #62333 | |
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GeoffM
6288 posts |
" said:Dunno how the loader works but if it's using late binding on downloaded components, which it likely is, then you can see why that would set off a sufficiently paranoid heuristic...Late binding on its own is perfectly normal (runtime libraries). SimSig doesn't produce/use any of its own DLLs so there is no late binding on downloaded content. One common problem is where the AV/AM software incorrectly tags a block of code that it has seen in a virus-laden program and that block of code is actually common to a lot of software. The other problem is where the AV/AM flags up software that it thinks is a bit iffy but doesn't really know, but scares the user anyway - which in itself is detrimental, both to the genuine software, and to the AV/AM for flagging so many false positives. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |