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Reversing in shortest distance - "far" or "near " ? 31/08/2015 at 08:29 #75539
MOSCOT
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Put this in timetable Chat , please move if in wrong area

Dont really understand fully setting up the near and far stopping when "reversing" at a signal that has not th esetting in the timetable- read thru the Wiki but my brain seems to block . Am ok going in one direction - up to a signal ahead

example - I am currently working on a 1977 Motherwell timetable and have made Hamiltion sidings(enrty point)for the DMU depot that existed at the time then . Everything works fine operationally all the days workings are in an run - just tweaking the entry times to fit as close to the actual WTT for the booked time to leave Hamilton West

When bringing out the empty dmus I dont want them trundling all way down the 5mph Birdsfield siding at 5mph and want them to stop at the exit signal 216 as they pass it - as would happen in real life .

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.... pic to explain attached in this -- 5K01SX I have set to F WITH 0 distance .

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Reversing in shortest distance - "far" or "near " ? 31/08/2015 at 08:37 #75540
AndyG
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Think you need the near end stopping for that move.

Near End Stop generally means the train will stop (and reverse) once the rear of the train has reached the location (with a long train it might even require the front of the train to move beyond the location to achieve this).

Far End Stop means the train will keep moving until the front of the train reaches the far end of the location (or a signal at danger).

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Reversing in shortest distance - "far" or "near " ? 31/08/2015 at 18:00 #75551
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Just for completion....

There is also the option of near-end exact and far-end exact. These do the same job's as the far-end or near-end options but they modify the position of the train when it comes to a halt.

Usually a far-end stop will come to a halt some distance (about 20m) from the signal at the far end. Similarly for near-end stop, the train would come to a halt with the rear end of the train a short distance from the near end signal. In either case, it's so a driver can still easily see the signal in that direction.

However, there are times when distances are tight, particularly in places like platforms and by stopping some distance from the signal would result in the train overhanging a TC on one side or the other of the designated stop point. It thus may be necessary to make sure the train stops right at the signal to ensure the train fits in a particularly location.

The far-end exact and near-end exact allow this to happen so the train stops right next to the appropriate signal.

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Reversing in shortest distance - "far" or "near " ? 01/09/2015 at 20:53 #75582
bill_gensheet
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There's a small number of more complicated locations, which for the OP includes Mossend North reverse on the Motherwell sim.

For that you may be best using FarX+250 (or similar) rather than Near especially for reversals at 298 or 296.

Bill

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Reversing in shortest distance - "far" or "near " ? 01/09/2015 at 21:05 #75583
Peter Bennet
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In the sim data it's possible to make the default one of "far/near/near-end reversals" the default default is far-end. I generally try and code explicit reversing points as "near-end reversal", can't speak for others. Either way you can then over-ride whatever the Sim default is.


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